Dear All,
Please find attached the weekly GridPP Project Management
Board Meeting minutes. The latest minutes can be found each week in:
http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/php/pmb/minutes.php?latest
as well as being listed with other minutes at
http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/php/pmb/minutes.php
Cheers, Tony
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Tony Doyle, GridPP Project Leader Telephone: +44-141-330 5899
Rm 478, Kelvin Building Telefax: +44-141-330 5881
Dept of Physics and Astronomy EMail: [log in to unmask]
University of Glasgow Web: http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~doyle
G12 8QQ, UK Video - IP: 194.36.1.32
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GridPP PMB Minutes 162 - 28th February 2005
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Present: Tony Doyle, Steve Lloyd, Dave Britton, John Gordon, Robin Middleton,
Dave Kelsey. Peter Clarke, Dan Tovey, Roger Jones & Sarah Pearce (by phone)
Apologies: Tony Cass, Jeremy Coles.
1. Request for GridPP support for UKQCD/QCDgrid training workshop
=================================================================
DT referred to the email sent last Tuesday regarding Alan Irving's request
for GridPP funding for the UKQCD/QCDgrid training workshop to be held at
EPCC.
See
http://www.ph.ed.ac.uk/ukqcd/training/2005/programme.html.
DT had iterated provisionally with TD and had said that GridPP may fund
half the costs if PMB sanctions permitted. It was noted that this meant
that Grid related themes should form part of the programme.
DT asked for
comments.
Everyone
confirmed that they were happy with the breakdown which would include a
full day of Grid related training. NeSC had also been suggested as
another funding sponsor/host and PC confirmed this is presently being
investigated and would be discussed later in the week. He wished to point
out however, that NeSC should be viewed as providing funding for
genuine e-Science related events. It was agreed that the PMB would
approve half the costs amounting to approximately £1,250 irrespective of
possible NeSC funding.
UKQCD would pay for the travel costs. TD noted that the Workshop would
clash
with the next face-to-face PMB. DT said he would talk to local Tier-2
coordinator and applications experts about LCG input.
2. JPhysG
=========
SP said PC had emailed the middleware chapter this week. A meeting to
discuss work distribution had to be postponed but this would now take
place later in the week. She said the management section had been done
but SL had still to do some work on the applications chapter. When all
chapters are completed she will compile a glossary of acronyms and pull
everything together into one document. She will also allocate more jobs
with the editorial team this week.
3. UK input to POB
==================
TD referred to the email from NG in which he asked for updates on reports
from TD, AS and JC for the next LCG POB meeting. It is hoped that this
can be completed by Wednesday, with TD being the first point of contact
for this. He will circulate a draft to the board on Wednesday for
comments.
4. AHM 2005 Planning
=====================
The board discussed the call for abstracts for AHM 2005 taking place in
Nottingham 19th to 22nd September. See
http//:www.allhands.org.uk.
The board looked at the various options offered for participation and TD
asked for 2 volunteers - 1 to present a high level view of GridPP and 1 to
present a technical overview. DK said he would bring this up at the next
Deployment Meeting. SP will forward a reminder to UKHEPGRID (NEW ACTION)
Actions
=======
140.9 RM to finalise LCG Deployment Logbook.
ongoing - final discussions have taken place - will be finalised in this week.
157.2: RJ - review experiment computing models for Tier-1 to Tier-2
interactions in the UK.
ongoing
157.4: TD to co-ordinate development of Tier-1 allocation policy.
ongoing
157.5: DB to co-ordinate development of new risk register.
ongoing
157.9: RM to report on direction of GridPP in terms of middleware.
ongoing - wait till April release of G-lite
157.11: JG to provide info. on VAT exemption criteria.
ongoing
157.12: SP to provide standard template talk for schools.
ongoing
159.1: TC to complete LCG Risk Assessment Forms
ongoing
159.2: RM to complete Middleware Risk Assessment Forms
ongoing
159.4: JG to complete Tier-1 Risk Assessment Forms
done
159.5: SL to complete Tier-2 Risk Assessment Forms
done
159.6: JC to complete Production Risk Assessment Forms
ongoing
159.7: NG to complete Interoperability Risk Assessment Forms
ongoing
159.8: DB to complete General Risk Assessment Forms
ongoing
159.9: SP to produce business cards for Dave Colling
ongoing
159.11: RJ to make Andrew fully aware of ATLAS plans
ongoing
159.12: SL to get reports of Tier-2 internal structures.
ongoing - will be discussed at Tier-2 Board
159.13: TC to extract LCG issues from GridPP12 talks
ongoing
159.14: RM to extract Middleware issues from GridPP12 talks
ongoing
159.15: RJ to extract Applications issues from GRidPP12 talks
done
159.19: DB to make list of all GridPP people and their roles
ongoing
159.20: RJ/JC to organise a meeting to discuss integration of experiment
planning and service challenges
ongoing
159.23: TD to contact Minos to see what their requirements are
ongoing
159.24: RJ/TD to contact (other) experiments to find out priority use cases
ongoing
161.1: SL to contact Regional Tier-2 centres for their policies
on resources allocated per institute.
ongoing
161.2: JG - what is long term plan for Grid operations
ongoing - prompted by LCG requirements for GridPP operations support
NEW ACTION 1621.1: SP to send a reminder to UKHEPGRID for abstracts for AHM
Standing Items
==============
SI-1 ALL: to provide any news items and meeting dates for the web page to SP.
SP said she had posted a news item about the Grid Operations Centre
provided by JG. She has sent some questions to DT for the 'Meet the PMB'
item.
SI-2 Production Manager's weekly report of issues.
JC had sent a report on upgrading of UK sites to LCG 2.30. The board
viewed the report and agreed that the global metrics were not good and
that the UK was well behind other sites with poor standards in upgrading.
TD asked JG what definitive list we should used to check against and he
provided (after the meeting) a URL for the Site Functional Tests Report:
http://lcg-testzone-reports.web.cern.ch/lcg-testzone-reports/cgi-bin/lastreport.cgi?dt=LCGVERSION&dt=SOFTVER&dt=CAVER&dt=BROKERINFO&dt=RGMA&dt=CSH&dt=CR&dt=CP&dt=REP&dt=REP3&dt=CP3&dt=DEL&dt=PILCG&dt=CRLCG&dt=CPLCG&dt=REPLCG&dt=REP3LCG&dt=CP3LCG&dt=DELLCG&ct=LCGVERSION&ct=CAVER&ct=BROKERINFO&ct=CSH&ct=CR&ct=CP&ct=REP&ct=REP3&ct=CP3&ct=DEL&ct=PILCG&ct=CRLCG&ct=CPLCG&ct=REPLCG&ct=REP3LCG&ct=CP3LCG&ct=DELLCG&rg=UKI&so=all&action=Save
available via
http://lcg-testzone-reports.web.cern.ch/lcg-testzone-reports/cgi-bin/lastreport.cgi?action=Configure
SL said he would raise this issue at the next Tier-2 Board to make them
aware of the shortcomings. This would also be discussed with the Deployment
Board. The PMB noted that this was considered as unsatisfactory
progress in terms of making timely SL3 and LCG2.3.0 upgrades at UK sites
(in comparison with many other countries).
AOB
===
JC has requested permission to attend the International Symposium on Grid
Computing 2005 being held in Taipei. The symposium will be preceded by a
GDB LCG Service Challenge meeting.
(http://www.twgrid.org/event/isgc2005/).
This has still to be discussed by the board.
SL said that an offer has been made regarding the post of Events Officer.
The recipient has accepted but will be unable to take up the position
until 13th June.
ACTIONS AS AT 28TH FEBRUARY 2005
================================
140.9 RM to finalise LCG Deployment Logbook.
157.2: RJ - review experiment computing models for Tier-1 to Tier-2
interactions in the UK.
157.4: TD to co-ordinate development of Tier-1 allocation policy.
157.5: DB to co-ordinate development of new risk register.
157.9: RM to report on direction of GridPP in terms of middleware.
157.11: JG to provide info. on VAT exemption criteria.
157.12: SP to provide standard template talk for schools.
159.1: TC to complete LCG Risk Assessment Forms
159.2: RM to complete Middleware Risk Assessment Forms
159.6: JC to complete Production Risk Assessment Forms
159.7: NG to complete Interoperability Risk Assessment Forms
159.8: DB to complete General Risk Assessment Forms
159.9: SP to produce business cards for Dave Colling
159.11: RJ to make Andrew fully aware of ATLAS plans
159.12: SL to get reports of Tier-2 internal structures.
159.13: TC to extract LCG issues from GridPP12 talks
159.14: RM to extract Middleware issues from GridPP12 talks
159.19: DB to make list of all GridPP people and their roles
159.20: RJ/JC to organise a meeting to discuss integration of experiment
planning and service challenges
159.23: TD to contact Minos to see what their requirements are
159.24: RJ/TD to contact (other) experiments to find out priority use cases
161.1: SL to contact Regional Tier-2 centres for their policies on
resources allocated per institute.
161.2: JG - what is long term plan for Grid operations
162.1: SP to send a reminder to UKHEPGRID for abstracts for AHM
STANDING ITEMS
==============
SI-1 ALL: to provide any news items and meeting dates for the web page to
SP.
SI-2 Production Manager's weekly report of issues.
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