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Dear All,
Please find attached the weekly GridPP Project Management
Board Meeting minutes. The latest minutes can be found each week in:
http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/php/pmb/minutes.php?latest
as well as being listed with other minutes at
http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/php/pmb/minutes.php
Cheers, Tony
PS the "Easter Egg" is a link to a draft abstract for AHM 2005.
(Comments appreciated on this overview by noon, Wednesday 30th March)
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Tony Doyle, GridPP Project Leader Telephone: +44-141-330 5899
Rm 478, Kelvin Building Telefax: +44-141-330 5881
Dept of Physics and Astronomy EMail: [log in to unmask]
University of Glasgow Web: http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~doyle
G12 8QQ, UK Video - IP: 194.36.1.32
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GridPP PMB Minutes 165 - 21st March 2005
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Present: Tony Doyle, Tony Cass, Dave Britton (video-link). Jeremy Coles, Robin
Middleton, John Gordon, Peter Clarke, Dan Tovey & Sarah Pearce (by phone).
Apologies: Steve Lloyd, Dave Kelsey, Roger Jones.
1. JPhysG
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SP said that SL had sent his comments on middleware to PC, and
incorporated comments on the applications chapter. PC to incorporate
SL's comments on middleware (PC unable to connect at this point). A new
diagram showing the Tiers has been prepared by TD. SP said she was
completing the pages on Acronyms.
2. Tier-1 Planning Status
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March 11th: Consultation draft released to Tier-1 Board - this has been done.
March 15th: Draft released to GridPP UB for information - this has been done.
March 18th: UB/PMB feedback responses:
DT said email responses so far had come from the following experiments:
- H1 stops running in 2007. There is 16TB of tape stored.
- MINOS have no problem with figures but would want more in 2007.
- UKQCD are happy with figures but do not need a CPU, preferring a disk
holding facility.
- BABAR is subject to ongoing discussion at the moment concerning
allocation and PPARC is being kept informed. Janet Seed will respond to
the current model.
DB said he will respond to comments on receiving the email from DT. He has
been continuing to update status as he goes along. He is happy to accept
more input from the UB if they want to update their resource requests.
TD said everyone should read through the final plan to make sure
everything is properly specified. It is hoped that a final version is
ready for 31st March.
TD said it was important to keep to the agreed timeline. He has sent a
draft agenda to DK for the Tier-1 board on 11th April to provide final
approval of the plan. It was noted that the Phase-2 planning finalisation
meeting would clash with the PMB face-to-face at IC on 14th April but it
was not feasible to change dates at this late stage. The RRB takes places
on 19th April and Janet Seed will attend.
3. Feedback from March GDB and Lyon Service Challenge Meeting
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JG had sent an email outlining a number of points from the GDB. He said
there had been a series of presentations from the US. 17 sites in the US
were releasing OSG software. MIS-CI monitoring framework was implemented
at a higher stage over other agents. It was intended that 4 Tier-2 sites
from the UK take part in SC3 later in the year.
There had been a request for more technical representation at the meetings
so JG had nominated Andrew Sansum as a candidate. It was also suggested
that SC meetings be held adjacent to GDB meetings so that people could
attend both.
SI-2 Production Manager's weekly report.
JC had sent a report via email earlier on issues including problems with
SC2 and said that tests had been carried out last week but were not (yet)
conclusive.
Note: 500MB/s was subsequently (Wednesday 23 March) achieved as part of
Service Challenge 2.
There had been a power failure (due to a local problem) at RAL Tier-1 on
Thursday but core services had been restored again by the early afternoon.
There will be further discussions with RT & PC regarding Tier-2 preparation
for SC3.
4. VMWARE proposal
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The board discussed the proposal to use VMWARE to utilise windows machines
for GridPP. It was agreed that in principal it was a good idea and that
XEN was not currently an option, but costly at an estimated £20k for
licensing. Some concerns were expreseed that Universities can harness
these untapped resources, since it required significant behind the scenes
organisational effort in labs, but if this can be demonstrated to work
this would represent good value for money. It was decided that a staged
approach would be more acceptable and that Oxford should demonstrate the
software on a small number of their machines with close interworking with
people in the labs. TD would therefore contact Rhys Newman to discuss
provision of up to £1-2k for licenses (if needed) to establish a
demonstration. This should be done under the auspices of the Southern
Tier-2, involving other sites in the Tier-2 should they wish to
participate.
5. Status of Travel Budget
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RM reported on the travel budget and said that £254k had been spent to
date and a projected FY outturn of approximately £270k is anticipated.
Travel costs of £33k have been claimed back through EGEE and would be
ploughed back to bring the actual spend down to around £240k. In the
future, with the growing activity of the experiments in GridPP, care will
be needed in deciding which costs should be attributed to experiments and
which should be debited against GridPP.
Actions
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157.2: RJ - review experiment computing models for Tier-1 to Tier-2
interactions in the UK.
ongoing
157.4: TD to co-ordinate development of Tier-1 allocation policy.
ongoing
157.5: DB to co-ordinate development of new risk register.
ongoing - still waiting on other documents before this can be concluded.
157.9: RM to report on direction of GridPP in terms of middleware.
ongoing - (wait till April release of G-lite)
157.11: JG to provide info on VAT exemption criteria.
done - JG has discussed this with finance people and will now write to C&E
157.12: SP to provide standard template talk for schools.
ongoing - will be done when Events Officer is in place
159.1: TC to complete LCG Risk Assessment Forms
ongoing
159.2: RM to complete Middleware Risk Assessment Forms
ongoing
159.7: NG to complete Interoperability Risk Assessment Forms
ongoing
159.8: DB to complete General Risk Assessment Forms
ongoing
159.11: RJ to make Andrew fully aware of ATLAS plans
ongoing
159.13: TC to extract LCG issues from GridPP12 talks
ongoing
159.14: RM to extract Middleware issues from GridPP12 talks
ongoing
159.19: DB to make list of all GridPP people and their roles
ongoing
164.1: JC to send out requests to Tier-2s to put forward their bids for
new hardware support
done - DB noted considerations for bids should be exercised with caution
and requests only granted for testbed hardware that was really needed.
164.2: SP to send a reminder to everyone to provide posters for IoP
done - SP noted that some other posters need to be upated.
NEW ACTION 165.1: TD to contact Rhys Newman to establish a partnership
for providing VMWARE licenses (costing up to £1-2k)
AOB
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Future Meetings
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Following various other meetings and impending public holidays, noted
below are the dates for the next 5 PMB meetings:
Monday 4th April
Thursday 14th April (F2F @ IC)
Monday 18th April
Monday 25th April
Monday 9th May
All Hand Meeting Abstracts
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TD noted that it has been difficult this year to find volunteers for the
abstract writing. The list of expected abstract contributors (on behalf
of the relevant writing team) is:
1. Overview by the Project Leader
A draft can be found at
http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/pmb/docs/GridPP_AHM2005.doc
Comments welcome to TD by noon, Wednesday 30th March.
2. Deployment by the Production Manager
3. Tier-1 by the Tier-1 Manager
4. 4*Tier-2 by the Tier-2 Managers
5. 5*Middleware/Security/Networking by the Coordinators
6. ~8*experiments by the Coordinators
All final versions should also be sent to SP for inclusion on the
abstracts page
http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/abstracts/
Standing Items
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SI-1 ALL: to provide any news items and meeting dates for the web page to SP.
SP said the LCG report on surpassing 100 sites had been posted as a news
item last week. She also said that the EGEE Review news release would be
posted on the website. She asked if an item could be done on Service
Challenges. SP said David Kant would provide an item on accounting. She
will also talk to DC about an item on the monitoring applet and its
conversion to a screensaver. See
http://www.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk/e-science/projects/demo/index.html
SI-2 Production Manager's weekly report of issues.
discussed earlier
ACTIONS AS AT 21ST MARCH 2005
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157.2: RJ - review experiment computing models for Tier-1 to Tier-2
interactions in the UK.
157.4: TD to co-ordinate development of Tier-1 allocation policy.
157.5: DB to co-ordinate development of new risk register.
157.9: RM to report on direction of GridPP in terms of middleware.
(wait till April release of G-lite)
157.12: SP to provide standard template talk for schools.
(will be done when Events Officer is in place)
159.1: TC to complete LCG Risk Assessment Forms
159.2: RM to complete Middleware Risk Assessment Forms
159.7: NG to complete Interoperability Risk Assessment Forms
159.8: DB to complete General Risk Assessment Forms
159.11: RJ to make Andrew fully aware of ATLAS plans
159.13: TC to extract LCG issues from GridPP12 talks
159.14: RM to extract Middleware issues from GridPP12 talks
159.19: DB to make list of all GridPP people and their roles
165.1: TD to contact Rhys Newman to establish a partnership for providing
VMWARE licenses (costing up to £1-2k)
STANDING ITEMS
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SI-1 ALL: to provide any news items and meeting dates for the web page to
SP.
SI-2 Production Manager's weekly report of issues.
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