Not to mention the two of them in the truncated version of Rosenkavalier.
"Mein Shatz!" Oy.
Mark
And thanks for the correction--memory slippage.
At 04:31 PM 5/20/2005, you wrote:
>Ah, Lotte Lehmann! Her Wagner. Her Strauss. (By the way, Mark - the latter
>wrote Vier letzte Lieder - you meant Vier ernste Gesänge by Brahms). And
>Lehmann plus Tauber in 1924 singing the "Glück, das mir verblieb" duet
>from *Die Tote Stadt* is heaven, a world of necrophiliac nostalgia
>concentrated in a few soaring minutes. No one sings like that today, no
>one. I even love her *Winterreise*, rushed & patchy as it is.
>mj
>Mark Weiss wrote:
>
>>I'm a listener only--a dud at the fiddle as a kid. But I've been lucky in
>>my friends--a lot of composers and musicians, who have never been shy about
>>their enthusiasms. My college roommate, who went on to be a composer and
>>music prof, had me sit next to him at the piano as he explained, note by
>>note, what was happening in Bach's Italian Concerto. Another friend had me
>>listen, score in hand, to a recording of Rachmaninoff playing Chopin--we
>>were both heavy into dead musicians at the time (I have a lifelong crush on
>>both Elizabeth Schumann and Lotte Lehman, and need I mention Conchita
>>Supervia?)--and had me notice the subtle variations in pressure on each
>>note that formed the articulaton of a phrase. So that when I got to Duncan
>>and Creeley I already knew how to sound them, and it continues to inform
>>both my reading and writing.
>>
>>Mark
>>
>>
>>At 03:45 PM 5/20/2005, you wrote:
>>
>>>This is not a subject I can resist. I totally agree with you; it's not just
>>>a loss to them but to their readers.
>>>
>>>I used to think that I was going to be a composer. The lessons I attended
>>>allowed me to find out in my own time that my musical processes were simply
>>>not distinctive enough for the job. But I sure learned to listen, to
>>>structure, balance and tonal qualities in particular, and all these things
>>>and more are essential for poetry too.
>>>
>>>best joanna
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Mark Weiss" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 8:09 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Brahms and music generally
>>>
>>>
>>>>One of the things I'm distressed by is the general lack of knowledge of
>>>>classical music among younger poets. I think I learned a lot more about
>>>>form, not to speak of sound, from devouring the canon. There's simply a
>>>>lack of complexity to popular music, as lovely or exciting as some of it
>>>>is.
>>>>
>>>>Also distressed at the general lack of knowledge of folk music, and I
>>>>don't
>>>>mean the music of Bob Dylan and Donovan Leitch, profound students of the
>>>>tradition. It used to be one of the things that held us together as
>>>>communities.
>>>>
>>>>My Carlos was taken to a Cailith (please, please correct my spelling) by a
>>>>then girlfriend of the Belfast Irish variety. He was utterly amazed that
>>>>everyone knew all the songs. In the US you'd have to go to a Protestant
>>>>church to find the like, and the fare would be hymns for breakfast lunch
>>>>and supper.
>>>>
>>>>Mark
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