<<
> Didn't Rob Crawford do work in Braid Scots, Peter?  I'm
> beginning to wonder -- don't really know his work that well.
> (Though my father confirmed him.)

Aha, he kent yer faither? Anyway, maybe it's me who would be surprised, but
I don't think so.
>>

Aye, attended father's kirk in Cambuslang.

But more than that, Peter.  He went to the same school as me (but he
finished as dux and I was close to the bottom of the heap) and he went to
Glasgow University (only he got a first and I didn't).  I could go on -- I
occasionally feel that some Calvanist god with a bleak sense of humour
created Robert Crawford to put me to shame.

<<
> Yesterday's wars, I suppose.

Ah, fowk were aye angry about _something_ during the 60s, eh?
>>

Say that again.  Fun, but.

<<
> But which Scots?

All of it -- that was one of the refreshing things. Well, I say 'all', no
doubt someone would pipe up and say something got left out, but Lallans,
urban Scots, Doric, Shetlandic, and so on all got a look in if I remember.
You maybe missed the Charter for the Arts in Scotland process that was going
on either late 80s or early 90s, but that fed into policy e.g. at SAC by the
mid 90s, preaching inclusivity in all things.
>>

Thanks for this, Peter -- problem with living in England is I'm a bit out of
touch.

<<
> The yahoo ScotsLanguage group (current membership 4) has just
> restarted after a two year hiatus, and *that* crew are even
> now antagonistic to urban speech.  (I should know -- I was in
> the original group from about the
> start.)

Plus ça change -- they used to meet in a lift, didn't they?
>>

The lift was beginning to get a bit crowded, as the membership had doubled.
But, "Yistreen there wir eight o us, thistreen there's but seven."  Checked
my mail when I got up and there were a couple of messages from the group.
Hey, I thought, things are really jumping! (comparatively speaking).  Worked
back from the later to the earlier.

First one posted was a long and I thought quite funny piece, basically
written in Braid Scots (better than I could have done), went on a bit, but
then ...

Move on, and there's a message from the list moderator Croman saying steve
sweeney-turner had been expelled from the list, nae warning, nae nothing,
just oot on yir arse, sonny jim.  Kinna made my jaw drop, like.

Oh, well, answers one question -- the list is for Braid Scots Only, and nae
langwidge (or sweary words to those who don't recognise the distinction of
that term from "language").

Going to send in a Protesting Post, and see if I can get kicked off myself,
and do it without cheating.  Be easy now the rules are apparent, simply send
in a post in urban Glasgow including sweary words and making fun of the
list.  Oh and mibee mention Jim Kelman.  Steve mentioned Irvin Welsh, and
that may have been a factor in his expulsion.  But I'm going to play this
one by *their* rules.  For the moment.

Jeez, Scots language groups, worse than the hard Left when it comes to
faction, fraction, friction, and split, split, and split again.  No wonder
the buggers eventually end up talking to themselves in a corner of Milne's
bar.

<<
Ay, I was conscious while listening to the sound and finding a way of
transcribing it. Actually, this very issue arose with a piece we had in
Edinburgh Review a few issues back. I'd routinely disposed of apostrophes
according to the Scots Style Sheet, and the author whimpered like a wounded
dog
>>

Nae wunner -- who messes with my apostrophies messes with my honour.

Is the Scots Style Sheet online?  Could google, I suppose.

<<
the depth of emotion such an essentially trivial matter arouses is quite
extraordinary. It's dancing to a heavy metal beat.
>>

Trivial?  Trivial?  You deliberately trying to wind me up?  Go on like that
and I'll shop you to the list moderator.

<<
a lovely poem Lydia Robb wrote about a Tom Leonard performance:

We Kin Laffatit Noo
>>

Gallus!!!  She get's Tom's style, and Tom himself,  to a T.  Must see if I
can find Chapman 77 on my shelves.  Should have it.  Somewhere.

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