I can't help feeling, if he doesn't like it here, why doesn't he just go
somewhere else?
best joanna
----- Original Message -----
From: "MJ Walker" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: Cocooned in Dylanesque or is Albert Einstein indeed God?
> In the end, Mark, it is I think that whining mock-"assumption" of
> underdog status while simultaneously mega-drop-kicking ass across the
> world without any respect for others' "assumptions" that is the real
> pain in the ass, the ass-umption in words dripping with smug fake
> embattlement, as you imply in your last para. Why bother to argue with
> one of the Reps of the Good Fight, when argument is precisely what he &
> his kind wish to banish from the world? Leave him to froth.
> Martin, getting very pissed off at this mixture of faux servility &
> breast-beating sanctimony.
>
> Mark Weiss wrote:
>
>>>
>>> amongst the intellectual elite,my personal
>>> viewpoint cast aside with distaste.
>>
>>
>>
>> Assumption. Most humans most of the time follow the evidence of their
>> senses as far as it will take them--that's why fishermen try different
>> flies if the fish don't bite until they find one that works.
>> Empiricism is
>> hardly limited to any kind of elite.
>>
>>
>>> Nevertheless I shall not wave the white flag.
>>> I shall not surrender.I will not bow down and
>>> worship the religion of individualism,a religion
>>> whereupon man-kind worships itself.
>>
>>
>>
>> Assumption
>>
>>
>>> 'Knowledge' is worshipped as God.
>>
>>
>>
>> Assumption
>>
>>
>>> You will usually find these worshippers amongst
>>> the highly educated in our society.
>>> They are the ones who take pride in the fact
>>> that they have been blessed with this knowledge
>>> and therefore deserve our worship.
>>
>>
>>
>> Assumption. And how do you classify those who cling to other scriptures?
>>
>>
>>> >Others have questioned your assumptions; I do not read that as
>>> intolerance.
>>> >If you are not interested in debating your beliefs, why raise them
>>> here?
>>> >
>>>
>>> not assumptions Alison.
>>> my beliefs could never be construed
>>> as assumptions.my beliefs are not pretentiousness.
>>
>>
>>
>> Look up pretensiousness, I think you're misusing it. I do tend to believe
>> in dictionaries, tho always with a hint of skepticism.
>>
>>
>>> If you indeed fail to see the
>>> intolerance that has so far been displayed toward my
>>> point of view,then there is nothing I can say that
>>> will persuade you otherwise.
>>>
>>> As far as debating my beliefs is concerned, I have yet
>>> to see any rational argument put forward by anyone
>>> on this List that is worthy of any response from me.
>>
>>
>> One can't have rational discourse about belief in givens--a contradiction
>> in terms.
>>
>> But hey, you guys have for the moment taken over America, causing immense
>> destruction in sub-Saharan Africa (AIDS policy), not to speak of the
>> middle
>> east and our own continent. Why should you care what anybody thinks?
>> Unless, with true Christian compassion, you're trying to save our souls.
>>
>> Mark
>>
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