"What time is it now? What time is it now? What time is it now?" - CB
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 08:47:07 -0700, Douglas Barbour
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> Oh, well, sorry, & you have made clear that you don't want to give a
> name, so that's fine by me.
>
> I enjoy Bernstein, & he can be a comic.
>
> Doug
> On 8-Mar-05, at 8:17 AM, Richard Jeffrey Newman wrote:
>
> > Actually, no, Doug, it's not Charles Bernstein, whom I have never heard
> > read, but whose essays and some of whose poems I have liked a lot.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and
> > poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Douglas Barbour
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 10:13 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: & in Fantastic Providence
> >
> > I assume it's Charles Bernstein, Max. Who has written some poems
> > recently that are very funny, especially a poem that declares its
> > transparency. Having heard him read a number of times, I would agree
> > that he could have played the borscht circuit, but he is also, in my
> > mind, obviously not others', a very interesting critic, & a poet
> > capable of a variety of tones & plays against the conventional grain.
> > The 'papers' he gives ate conferences tend to be deliberately
> > anti-academic, & (at least ofr an audience like me) tellingly comic.
> >
> > Doug
> > On 7-Mar-05, at 1:32 PM, cooee wrote:
> >
> >> on 7/3/05 12:52 AM, Richard Jeffrey Newman at
> >> [log in to unmask]
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> like stand-up
> >>> comedy--and tired, shallow 1950s, Jewish, psychoanalytically
> >>> influenced,
> >>> stand-up shtick at that--than poetry, and yet he reads well in that
> >>> vein and
> >>> people really like his work.
> >>
> >> No doubt several on this list know immediately who this poet is, and
> >> it is
> >> tantalising for me not to know. I suppose I'm so ill-read or so
> >> forgetful I
> >> don't deserve to know.
> >>
> >> Max Richards
> >>
> >> I've been enjoying all the messages on this subject.
> >> Coincidentally, my son is briefly here from Byron Bay NSW, bringing a
> >> compilation CD he made for my Christmas present but never got round to
> >> delivering. On it (from a 3CD album called I think The Beat
> >> Generation)
> >> I am now listening to bits of Kerouac, Burroughs (heroin relaxes the
> >> vocal
> >> chords, says my son), Ginsberg, none of them great to listen to but
> >> great
> >> historical curiosities now. And 27 seconds of Carl Sandburg 'On
> >> Beatniks',
> >> saying he was one round 1910...
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Douglas Barbour
> > Department of English
> > University of Alberta
> > Edmonton Alberta T6G 2E5 Canada
> > (780) 436 3320
> > http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/dbhome.htm
> >
> > care to be more
> > precise about whatever
> > it is you are
> > saying, I said
> >
> > Bill Manhire
> >
> >
>
> Douglas Barbour
> Department of English
> University of Alberta
> Edmonton Alberta T6G 2E5 Canada
> (780) 436 3320
> http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/dbhome.htm
>
> care to be more
> precise about whatever
> it is you are
> saying, I said
>
> Bill Manhire
>
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