20th c choral music is almost an oxymoron, but the Glagolitic Mass is a
glorious exception. There's also the fabulous Ligeti music Kubrick used for
2001, and also a central-eastern European tradition that Penderecki captures
in his St Luke Mass.
Pace Mark's comments about minimalism, there's also Steve Reich's Desert
Music, which I think is wonderful. Based on W. C. Williams poems.
Oh, and let's not forget Carmina Burana.
P
> -----Original Message-----
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> To name a few, teh masses and oratorios of Haydn, especially
> The Creation, and the Mozart Requiem.
>
> Most 19th century choral music does get pretty soppy.
>
> In the 20th century check out the Ives Harvest Home Chorales
> and his psalm settings, Martin. I'm also fond of Janacek's
> Glagolotic Mass. There's an amazing setting of some of
> Neruda's Canto General by Theodorakis. A live performance at
> a post-junta outdoor rally in Athens was acoustically
> challenged but is the one to get if you can find it. Latin
> American idiom translated into Balkan folk. Nonetheless
> moving. There's a lot. But Bach reigns.
>
> I love vocal music because of my love of the spoken word.
>
> Mark
>
>
> At 11:46 AM 5/20/2005, you wrote:
> >Yes, it is, it swoons quintessentially, perhaps a little too
> much for
> >frequent listening, whereas the Piano Quintet has
> everything, ardour,
> >swoon, abrasion, gaiety - definitely on my Desert Island Discs.
> >I like very little choral music after Bach, until the 20th
> C. The Missa
> >Solemnis, Berlioz & Verdi are exceptions, in every way. And
> Schumann's
> >Faust Scenes.
> >mj
> >
> >Joanna Boulter wrote:
> >
> >>Best of all is the Clarinet Quintet. Music to die to, that.
> >>
> >>best joanna
> >>
> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Barbour"
> >><[log in to unmask]>
> >>To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >>Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 3:18 PM
> >>Subject: Re: Snap - Jones
> >>
> >>
> >>Hey Joanna
> >>
> >>I like Brahms, too, but mostly his work for small groups
> (as we say in
> >>jazz).
> >>
> >>I am always happy to hear comments on choral music as it's not my
> >>major interest, & I tend to listen to instrumental most of
> the time....
> >>
> >>Doug
> >>On 19-May-05, at 1:47 PM, Joanna Boulter wrote:
> >>
> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "MJ Walker" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 8:27 PM
> >>>Subject: Re: Snap - Jones
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>.Actually, Ken, Fauré was not so religious as all that; I
> quote from
> >>>>a convenient website
> >>>>(http://members.macconnect.com/users/j/jimbob/classical/
> Faure_Requiem.html):
> >>>>Fauré spent much of his life in the service of the
> church, but his
> >>>>personal views on religion were unconventional at best, downright
> >>>>cynical or agnostic at worst. These are his thoughts on
> spirituality
> >>>>in the /Requiem/:"Everything I managed to entertain in
> the way of
> >>>>religious illusion I put into my Requiem, which moreover is
> >>>>dominated from beginning to end by a very human feeling
> of faith in
> >>>>eternal rest."< Nox est perpetua una dormienda. And Verdi was an
> >>>>atheist, I believe. Berlioz wasn't too croyant, either, so that
> >>>>more or less wraps up 19th C requiems of genius...(Well, OK,
> >>>>Cherubini, Dvorak...) mj
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Will no one speak up for Brahms? He wasn't much of a believer in a
> >>>regular church, and wrote his Requiem to texts from the
> German bible,
> >>>hence its name, 'A German Requiem'. I happen to think it's a
> >>>magnificent work, both in the music and in his choice of
> texts; but
> >>>then, I like and admire Brahms.
> >>>
> >>>best joanna
> >>Douglas Barbour
> >>11655 - 72 Avenue NW
> >>Edmonton Ab T6G 0B9
> >>(780) 436 3320
> >>
> >>Words cling to other words
> >>As we have seen, although even these are Migratory and the
> forgotten
> >>shows through as correction.
> >>This noun has been defunct for centuries.
> >>
> >> Ann Lauterbach
>
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