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Re: clicking cracking...cavitation?

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Parker Neville <[log in to unmask]>

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A group for the academic discussion of current issues in podiatry <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 3 Nov 2005 08:27:03 -0000

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Paul thanks for your contribution.  I was thinking more of the knee and ankle area.

 

I take it from the dearth of takers on this one that there is little evidence for this situation and that we all rely on the two explanations I put forward.

 

Any takers on this one?

 

Neville

 

Neville Parker

Senior I Poditrist

Podiatry Department

Therapy Unit

Royal Bolton Hospital

Minerva Road

Farnworth

BL4 0JR

 



	-----Original Message----- 

	From: A group for the academic discussion of current issues in podiatry on behalf of Paul Conneely 

	Sent: Thu 03/11/2005 04:00 

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	Subject: Re: clicking cracking...cavitation?

	

	



	Desar Dave et al

	

	I have now just posted how to stretch the psoas.

	see

	www.musmed.com.au and it is on the left hand slider.

	

	Regards,

	Paul Cnneely

	

	

	> Paul

	>

	> What is a good illio psoas stretching exercise that the average 50-70yr old

	> could do at home?

	>

	> Dave Smith

	> ----- Original Message -----

	> From: "Paul Conneely" <[log in to unmask]>

	> To: <[log in to unmask]>

	> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 3:24 AM

	> Subject: Re: clicking cracking...cavitation?

	>

	>

	> > Neville

	> >

	> > The commonest cause of a hip cracking sound is a taut psoas tendon hitting

	> > the

	> > pubic bone after falling off the anterior part of the hip capsule. The

	> > muscle

	> > is so taut that it cannot stretch fast enough and thus tenses and gets

	> > caught

	> > on the anterior part of the hip capsule. Eventually the tension causes it

	> > to

	> > move and hit the pubis.

	> >

	> > This can be felt by palpation of the psoas tendon in the abdomen or seen

	> > on an

	> > ultrasound.

	> >

	> > The treatment is psoas lengthening. The most common dysfunctional muscle

	> > outside the quadratus lumborum I see. I would say that almost 100% of back

	> > pain

	> > have a psoas involved somewhere in th dysfunctional kinetic chain.

	> >

	> > Regards,

	> > Paul Conneely.

	> > www.musmed.com.au

	> >

	> >> Parker,

	> >>

	> >> In the ankle region it is ususally the peroneal tendons slipping out of

	> >> its groove. Less commonly is the extensor digitorum longus slipping over

	> >> the lateral head of the talus. These conditions are brought about by a

	> >> decrease of integrity of the fascia/retinaculum. Move the foot around

	> >> and place your fingers over the  appropriate area, and you will feel the

	> >> snap.

	> >> The snapping in the knee can be either a plica snapping over the femoral

	> >> condyle ( most commonly on the superior medial patella region), or the

	> >> iliotibial band snapping over Gerdy's tubercle.

	> >>

	> >> Regards,

	> >>

	> >> Stanley

	> >>

	> >> Parker Neville wrote:

	> >>

	> >> > Dear Colleagues,

	> >> >

	> >> > I have a question regarding the high pitched clicking and cracking

	> >> > that occurs in knees, ankles and other joints.  After having attended

	> >> > a course on manipulation I am not talking about the pop or cavitation

	> >> > of a joint.  Neither am I talking about the thud or clunking that may

	> >> > occur in a hip when circumducted into strange positions.

	> >> >

	> >> > As a long time sufferer of completely asymptomatic clicks and cracks

	> >> > at the ankles and knees, I have on every opportunity asked physio's,

	> >> > other podiatrist and knee specialists, but don't have a definitive

	> >> > answer.  Can anyone enlighten me?

	> >> >

	> >> > I have come across flowery explanations such as "Oh it's air in the

	> >> > joint", or "The noise occurs when tendons 'flick' over each other".

	> >> > Nothing concrete and I am none the wiser.

	> >> >

	> >> > I have had young patients with the complaint recently come to see me

	> >> > with concerned mothers worrying if the child will get arthritis later

	> >> > on in life.  What do others tell patients?  I have just fallen back on

	> >> > the above explanations and said "I'm doing okay, so it's nothing to

	> >> > worry about".  I have nothing better to refer to and if anyone can

	> >> > point me in the right direction I would be most grateful.

	> >> >

	> >> > Until then, I won't take up robbery as a side profession as I make a

	> >> > hell of a noise climbing stairs!

	> >> >

	> >> > Thanks, in anticipation

	> >> >

	> >> > Neville

	> >> > Neville Parker

	> >> > Senior I Poditrist

	> >> > Podiatry Department

	> >> > Therapy Unit

	> >> > Royal Bolton Hospital

	> >> > Minerva Road

	> >> > Farnworth

	> >> > BL4 0JR

	> >> >

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