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Subject:

Re: GP's ts and cs in relation to occupational disease

From:

"Murphy Elizabeth (NHS Grampian)" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Murphy Elizabeth (NHS Grampian)

Date:

Tue, 4 Oct 2005 09:19:34 +0100

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text/plain (1 lines) , Fee-for G.P. report.doc (1 lines)

Dear Kate



working in an NHS OHS providing services to University Staff



we offer all GPS the opportunity to invoice in line with BMA 

fees guide and Consultants similarly (see attached)for 

university associated reports



this is in keeping with other OHS providers.occasionally a 

consultant will ask for a large fee >£200 then we negotiate 

but in reality most don't ask



Liz



---- Original message ----

>Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 21:39:05 +0100

>From: Robert Lewis <[log in to unmask]>  

>Subject: Re: GP's ts and cs in relation to occupational 

disease  

>To: [log in to unmask]

>

>GPs cannot charge for treatment but can charge educational 

and other 

>bodies for examinations, reports and certificates. The 

relevant clauses 

>in the current GMS contract are:

>

>________________

>484  The Contractor may demand or accept a fee or other 

remuneration—

>484.1.  from any statutory body for services rendered for 

the purposes 

>of that body’s statutory functions;

>484.2.  from any body, employer or school for a routine 

medical 

>examination of persons for whose welfare the body, employer 

or school 

>is responsible, or an examination of such persons for the 

purpose of 

>advising the body, employer or school of any administrative 

action they 

>might take;

>

>

>484.6  for attending and examining (but not otherwise 

treating) a 

>patient-

>484.6.2.  at the request of a commercial, educational or not-

for-profit 

>organisation for the purpose of creating a medical report or 

>certificate, or

>484.6.3.  for the purpose of creating a medical report 

required in 

>connection with an actual or potential claim for 

compensation by the 

>patient;

>--

>Robert Lewis MRCGP AFOM

>[log in to unmask]

>

>

>On 3 Oct, 2005, at 17:16, Kate Venables wrote:

>

>> Dear all - can anyone help resolve a matter of discussion 

between 

>> myself and a colleague?  Especially any of you who have 

worked as a 

>> GP.  I understood that it was part of a GP's terms and 

conditions that 

>> no fee was chargable for work which related to the 

diagnosis of 

>> potential occupational disease in their patients.  I have 

a feeling I 

>> first heard this from Sherwood Burge in relation to the 

diagnosis of 

>> potential occupational asthma.  My colleague understands 

that there is 

>> such a regulation but that it relates only to those 

patients of a GP 

>> who work for the NHS.

>>

>> The reason why this came up is in the context of 

university 

>> occupational health - our main occupational diseases are 

occupational 

>> asthma, WRULD and stress (if you count stress).  I have 

been at times 

>> surprised to be asked for a fee for a letter when I have 

initiated 

>> communications with a staff member's GP about, say, 

occupational 

>> asthma.  Most GPs don't charge, in my experience, for 

letters which 

>> are part of an exchange about a potential occupational 

disease.  But 

>> some seem to do so - and I don't think they should!

>>

>> Best wishes - Kate

>>

Dr E Murphy

Lead Consultant Occupational Physician

NHS Grampian OHS

Foresterhill Lea

NHS Grampian

Aberdeen

AB25 2YZ

01224 553663

fax 01224559749

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