from Frank Daniels <[log in to unmask]>
To condemn someone for taking such a post at such a low salary when the
qualifications demanded are so out of "synch" with that salary is a terrible
waste of energy. Someone will take that post and it is not for us to
speculate on either who or why.
What is clear is that CILIP should be seen to be doing something about such
adverts. It is a professional organisation, supposedly dedicated to
upholding professional principles, none of which have anything to do with
money. Loss of advertising income is NOT the issue! The issue is, does CILIP
care about the principles it professes to hold? For more than twenty years
such thoughts did not cross my mind, but now I see things in a different
light. Edward Dudley's story about the Librarian of Bath shows just how much
distance our professional organisation has travelled. Was it a good journey?
Frank Daniels
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>Topics of the day:
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> 1. Gazette 11 Feb (10)
> 2. Gazette 11 Feb[Scanned]
> 3. Get technical with TFPL
> 4. Video about reading and/or school libraries (5)
> 5. Would welcome advice. (4)
> 6. FW: City Business Library visit
> 7. [press] Announcing the Public Warning Network Challenge
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>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:03:28 -0000
>From: "Innes, Claire" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Gazette 11 Feb
>
>Edward Dudley wrote:
>
> > what are our thoughts on those who accept such jobs - sympathy or
>condemnation as Utter Rotters.?
>
>
>Considering that Jobseeker's Allowance is either =A344.05 per week if you
>a=
>re
>aged 18-24 or =A355.65 if you are over 25, I'd have a lot of sympathy with
>anyone who accepts a job at a low salary. If you're desperate, any salary
>is OK!
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>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:04:47 -0000
>From: John Briggs <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Gazette 11 Feb
>
>Ian Evans wrote:
> > New professionals do not have a choice! You either take the job or do
> > not work.
>
>But that is not the case in this instance. The post is for an experienced
>person, and located where a "new professional" cannot afford to live. It
>would be very interesting to see who is actually appointed.
>
>John Briggs
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>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:20:32 -0000
>From: Edward Dudley <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Gazette 11 Feb
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>RE: Gazette 11 FebAs I recall it was a non-believer of the name of Peter
>Pagan (but naming names may lead to pack drill which I can probably still
>do).
>Perhaps the only possible reaction is 'mixed feelings'. But perhaps CILIP
>should rephrase and sharpen and repeat its admonitions to members applying
>for poorly paid posts
>Edward Dudley
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Dobson, Malcolm
> Sent: 14 February 2005 11:57
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Gazette 11 Feb
>
>
> Pity, I think, rather than censure, that they are driven to such
>straits.
>If they are censured, would it be by throwing the book at them (or a CD-ROM
>in this e-age)?
>
> 'Librarian of Bath' - is that one of the lesser known Canterbury Tales?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Edward Dudley [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 14 February 2005 12:08
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Gazette 11 Feb
>
> And to shift the discussion a little sideways, what are our thoughts
>on
>those who accept such jobs - sympathy or condemnation as Utter Rotters.? In
>the 50's there was a celebrated case of the LA blacklisting a man who took
>a
>poorly paid post (Librarian of Bath, I think). Blacklisting was no more
>than professional denouncement. Perhaps today any wayward members should
>be
>publicly cursed on the steps of 7 Ridgmount St by the Chair of the
>Disciplinary Committee.
>
>
> Edward Dudley
>
> [log in to unmask]
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Mike Morris
> Sent: 14 February 2005 11:44
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Gazette 11 Feb
>
>
> If it's anything like Oxford, a job of this level won't be
>academic-related, and the AUT won't be interested.
>
> Mike Morris, Librarian, ISCA
> 51 Banbury Rd., Oxford OX2 6PE 01865 274671
>
>
> _____
>
>
> From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Adrian Smith
> Sent: 14 February 2005 11:29
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Gazette 11 Feb
>
> No doubt there's a Trade Union recognised at the British Museum
>Library; I note that the AUT and NATFHE are negotiating a merger, and the
>AUT does represent academic-related staff i.e.some Librarians, in the HE
>sector.
>
>
> Adrian Smith, Headingley
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carden, Karen J
> Sent: 11 February 2005 11:13
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Gazette 11 Feb
> They're having a laugh. Probably.
>
> Karen Carden
> Taught Course Support
> Imperial College London
> Central Library
> South Kensington Campus
> LONDON SW7 2AZ
> Tel: 020 7594 8819
> E-mail: [log in to unmask]
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Mike Morris
> Sent: 11 February 2005 11:11
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Gazette 11 Feb
> Just to say I hope colleagues won't start an IKEA-style stampede
>to apply for the British Museum job (p. 12). I mean, degree, experience,
>chartership and languages-all for 16k!!
>
> Seriously, are they having a laugh? Or are the BM a bit strapped
>for cash?
>
> Mike Morris, Librarian, ISCA
> 51 Banbury Rd., Oxford OX2 6PE 01865 274671
>
>
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>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:07:01 -0000
>From: Ian Evans <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Gazette 11 Feb[Scanned]
>
>I concur, but it in the wider debate this stills stands. I was offered =
>=A317,000 for a first post inside the M25. I could not take it.
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>Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 12:05
>To: [log in to unmask]
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>
>Ian Evans wrote:
> > New professionals do not have a choice! You either take the job or do
> > not work.
>
>But that is not the case in this instance. The post is for an =
>experienced
>person, and located where a "new professional" cannot afford to live. =
>It
>would be very interesting to see who is actually appointed.
>
>John Briggs
>
>.
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>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:14:29 -0000
>From: John Briggs <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Gazette 11 Feb
>
>Samantha Brookes wrote:
> > We can't judge the people who take the jobs. What if your dream job
> > is to work for the British Museum and this is your only way to get
> > in? Or what if you have been unemployed for years and this is the
> > only job you can get? If you are a qualified librarian you may prefer
> > to take this job rather than work on a supermarket checkout!
>
>I think you are getting close to the answer. Bear in mind that someone who
>has been unemployed for years, or for whom the alternative is the
>supermarket checkout, would be unable to take the job. It is the "dream
>job" for someone who doesn't need the money.
>
>John Briggs
>
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>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:00:12 +0000
>From: Gillian Edwards <[log in to unmask]>
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>Hmm I do sympathise but as long as people continue to take these jobs
>the employers offering them are getting away with it and thinking it is
>ok to pay such rubbish salaries. We are condoning it if we do nothing.
> If we take a united stand we stand a better chance of changing things.
>If your dream job is to work for an organisation that respects its staff
>so little that it pays a rubbish salary then I'd say you needed to think
>again-if the salary is bad then the terms and conditions may well be
>too-and so called dream jobs often turn out to be the opposite.
>It is one thing to take a job that is a lower salary than you had hoped
>for but which you really want (which a lot of us have probably done in
>our careers) but quite another to take one at a staggeringly and
>insultingly low salary, especially if it expects you to have more than
>the average amount of qualifications/languages or whatever. It may mean
>having to take an acceptably paid job in a different sector (or even a
>different profession) for a period of time until a better paid job in
>your preferred area turns up but surely that is a better option than
>working your guts out for a pitiful salary?
>
>Gillian
>
>
>Samantha Brookes wrote:
>
> > We can't judge the people who take the jobs. What if your dream job is
> > to work for the British Museum and this is your only way to get in? Or
> > what if you have been unemployed for years and this is the only job
> > you can get? If you are a qualified librarian you may prefer to take
> > this job rather than work on a supermarket checkout!
> >
> >
> >
> > Samantha Brookes
> > Electronic Resources Officer
> > Careers Service
> > University House
> > University of Warwick
> >
> >
> >
> > >>> [log in to unmask] 14/02/05 12:07:44 >>>
> > And to shift the discussion a little sideways, what are our thoughts
> > on those who accept such jobs - sympathy or condemnation as Utter
> > Rotters.? In the 50's there was a celebrated case of the LA
> > blacklisting a man who took a poorly paid post (Librarian of Bath, I
> > think). Blacklisting was no more than professional denouncement.
> > Perhaps today any wayward members should be publicly cursed on the
> > steps of 7 Ridgmount St by the Chair of the Disciplinary Committee.
> >
> > Edward Dudley
> >
> >
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Mike Morris
> > Sent: 14 February 2005 11:44
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Gazette 11 Feb
> >
> > If it's anything like Oxford, a job of this level won't be
> > academic-related, and the AUT won't be interested.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike Morris, Librarian, ISCA
> >
> > 51 Banbury Rd., Oxford OX2 6PE 01865 274671
> >
> >
> >
> >
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Adrian Smith
> > Sent: 14 February 2005 11:29
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Gazette 11 Feb
> >
> >
> >
> > No doubt there's a Trade Union recognised at the British Museum
> > Library; I note that the AUT and NATFHE are negotiating a merger,
> > and the AUT does represent academic-related staff i.e.some
> > Librarians, in the HE sector.
> >
> >
> >
> > Adrian Smith, Headingley
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carden, Karen J
> > Sent: 11 February 2005 11:13
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Gazette 11 Feb
> >
> > They're having a laugh. Probably.
> >
> >
> >
> > Karen Carden
> > Taught Course Support
> > Imperial College London
> > Central Library
> > South Kensington Campus
> > LONDON SW7 2AZ
> >
> > Tel: 020 7594 8819
> > E-mail: [log in to unmask]
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Mike Morris
> > Sent: 11 February 2005 11:11
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Gazette 11 Feb
> >
> > Just to say I hope colleagues won't start an IKEA-style
> > stampede to apply for the British Museum job (p. 12). I
> > mean, degree, experience, chartership and languages-all
> > for 16k!!
> >
> > Seriously, are they having a laugh? Or are the BM a bit
> > strapped for cash?
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike Morris, Librarian, ISCA
> >
> > 51 Banbury Rd., Oxford OX2 6PE 01865 274671
> >
> >
> >
>
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>Hmm I do sympathise but as long as people continue to take these jobs the
>employers offering them are getting away with it and thinking it is ok to
>pay such rubbish salaries. We are condoning it if we do nothing. If
>we take
>a united stand we stand a better chance of changing things. <br>
>If your dream job is to work for an organisation that respects its staff
>so little that it pays a rubbish salary then I'd say you needed to think
>again-if the salary is bad then the terms and conditions may well be
>too-and
>so called dream jobs often turn out to be the opposite.<br>
>It is one thing to take a job that is a lower salary than you had hoped for
>but which you really want (which a lot of us have probably done in our
>careers)
>but quite another to take one at a staggeringly and insultingly low salary,
>especially if it expects you to have more than the average amount of
>qualifications/languages
>or whatever. It may mean having to take an acceptably paid job in a
>different
>sector (or even a different profession) for a period of time until a better
>paid job in your preferred area turns up but surely that is a better option
>than working your guts out for a pitiful salary?<br>
><br>
>Gillian<br>
><br>
><br>
>Samantha Brookes wrote:<br>
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>can get? If you are a qualified librarian you may prefer to take this job
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> <div>Samantha Brookes<br>
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>Careers Service<br>
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> <div><span class="070050212-14022005"><font face="Arial"
> color="#0000ff" size="2">And to shift the discussion a little sideways,
>what are our thoughts on those who accept such jobs - sympathy or
>condemnation
>as Utter Rotters.? In the 50's there was a celebrated case of the LA
>blacklisting
>a man who took a poorly paid post (Librarian of Bath, I think).
>Blacklisting
>was no more than professional denouncement. Perhaps today any
>wayward members
>should be publicly cursed on the steps of 7 Ridgmount St by the Chair of
>the Disciplinary Committee.</font></span></div>
>
> <div><span class="070050212-14022005"></span> </div>
>
> <div><span class="070050212-14022005"><font color="#0000ff"
>size="2">Edward
> Dudley</font></span></div>
>
> <div> </div>
>
> <p><font face="Arial" size="2"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
>href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a></font> </p>
>
> <blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px;">
> <div class="OutlookMessageHeader" dir="ltr" align="left"><font
> face="Tahoma" size="2">-----Original Message-----<br>
> <b>From:</b> Chartered Library and Information Professionals [<a
>class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
>href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">mailto:[log in to unmask]</a>]<b>On
>Behalf Of </b>Mike Morris<br>
> <b>Sent:</b> 14 February 2005 11:44<br>
> <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
>href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a><br>
> <b>Subject:</b> Re: Gazette 11 Feb<br>
> <br>
> </font></div>
>
> <div class="Section1">
> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">If it’s
>anything
>like <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
>w:st="on">Oxford</st1:place></st1:City>,
>a job of this level won’t be academic-related, and the AUT won’t be
> interested.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family:
>Arial;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <div>
> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" color="navy"
> size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: navy;">Mike Morris,
>Librarian,
>ISCA<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class="MsoNormal"><st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street
>w:st="on"><font
> face="Times New Roman" color="navy" size="3"><span
> style="font-size: 12pt; color: navy;">51 Banbury
>Rd.</span></font></st1:Street><font
> color="navy"><span style="color: navy;">, <st1:City
>w:st="on">Oxford</st1:City>
> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">OX2
>6PE</st1:PostalCode></span></font></st1:address><font
> color="navy"><span style="color: navy;"> 01865
>274671<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> </div>
>
> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family:
>Arial;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <div>
> <div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"
>align="center"><font
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></span></font></div>
>
> <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
> style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-family:
>Tahoma;">From:</span></font></b><font
> face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> Chartered Library and
>Information Professionals [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
>href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">mailto:[log in to unmask]</a>]
><b><span
> style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Adrian Smith<br>
> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> 14 February 2005
>11:29<br>
> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a
>class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
>href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a><br>
> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Gazette 11
> Feb</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
> </div>
>
> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
> style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <div>
> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" color="blue" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; color: blue; font-family: Arial;">No doubt
>there's
>a Trade Union recognised at the British Museum Library; I note that the
>AUT and NATFHE are negotiating a merger, and the AUT does represent
>academic-related
> staff i.e.some Librarians, in the HE
>sector.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
> </div>
>
> <div>
> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
> style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> </div>
>
> <div>
> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" color="blue" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; color: blue; font-family: Arial;">Adrian Smith,
> Headingley</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
> </div>
>
> <div>
> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
> style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> </div>
>
> <blockquote
> style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; margin-right: 0cm;">
> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font
> face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">-----Original
>Message-----<br>
> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Chartered
>Library and Information Professionals [<a
>class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
>href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">mailto:[log in to unmask]</a>]
> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of
></span></b>Carden,
>Karen J<br>
> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> 11 February
>2005
> 11:13<br>
> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a
>class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
>href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a><br>
> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Gazette
>11 Feb</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
>
> <div>
> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" color="blue" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; color: blue; font-family: Arial;">They're having
>a laugh. Probably.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
> </div>
>
> <div>
> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
> style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> </div>
>
> <p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Karen Carden</span></font>
> <br>
> <font face="Arial" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Taught <st1:PlaceName
> w:st="on">Course</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName
>w:st="on">Support</st1:PlaceName></span></font>
> <br>
> <st1:PlaceName w:st="on"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
>Arial;">Imperial</span></font></st1:PlaceName><font
> face="Arial" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> <st1:PlaceType
> w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceType> <st1:City
>w:st="on">London</st1:City></span></font>
> <br>
> <font face="Arial" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Central
>Library</span></font>
> <br>
> <font face="Arial" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">South Kensington
>Campus</span></font>
> <br>
> <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font face="Arial"
> size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
>Arial;">LONDON</span></font></st1:place></st1:City><font
> face="Arial" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> SW7 2AZ</span></font>
> <o:p></o:p></p>
>
> <p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Tel: 020 7594
>8819</span></font>
> <br>
> <font face="Arial" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">E-mail: <a
>class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
>href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a></span></font>
> <o:p></o:p></p>
>
> <blockquote
> style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; margin-right: 0cm;">
> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font
> face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">-----Original
>Message-----<br>
> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b>
>Chartered
>Library and Information Professionals [<a
>class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
>href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">mailto:[log in to unmask]</a>]<b><span
> style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Mike Morris<br>
> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> 11 February
>2005 11:11<br>
> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a
>class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
>href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a><br>
> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Gazette 11
> Feb</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
>
> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Just to say I hope
>colleagues
> won’t start an IKEA-style stampede to apply for the <st1:place
> w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">British</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
> w:st="on">Museum</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> job (p. 12). I mean, degree,
> experience, chartership and languages-all for 16k!!
><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Seriously, are they having
>a laugh? Or are the BM a bit strapped for
>cash?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
>Arial;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
> style="font-size: 12pt;">Mike Morris, Librarian,
>ISCA<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> <p class="MsoNormal"><st1:address
> style="background: url(res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001) repeat-x bottom left;"
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> style="font-size: 12pt;">51 Banbury
>Rd.</span></font></st1:Street><span
> style="">, <st1:City
> style="background: url(res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001) repeat-x bottom left;"
> w:st="on">Oxford</st1:City> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">OX2
>6PE</st1:PostalCode></span></st1:address><span
> style=""> 01865 274671<o:p></o:p></span></p>
>
> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
> style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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>=09Sent:=2014=20February=202005=2012:21
>=09To:[log in to unmask]
>=09Subject:=20Re:=20Gazette=2011=20Feb
>=09
>=09
>=09As=20I=20recall=20it=20was=20a=20non-believer=20of=20the=20name=20of=20=
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>=09Perhaps=20the=20only=20possible=20reaction=20is=20'mixed=20feelings'.=20=
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>=09=09-----Original=20Message-----
>=09=09From:=20Chartered=20Library=20and=20Information=20Professionals=20[m=
>ailto:[log in to unmask]]On=20Behalf=20Of=20Dobson,=20Malcolm
>=09=09Sent:=2014=20February=202005=2011:57
>=09=09To:[log in to unmask]
>=09=09Subject:=20Re:=20Gazette=2011=20Feb
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>=09=09
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>=09=09Pity,=20I=20think,=20rather=20than=20censure,=20that=20they=20are=20=
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>=09=09'Librarian=20of=20Bath'=20-=20is=20that=20one=20of=20the=20lesser=20=
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>=09=09=09-----Original=20Message-----=20
>=09=09=09From:=20=20=20Edward=20Dudley=20[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]=20
>=09=09=09Sent:=20=20=2014=20February=202005=2012:08=20
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>=09=09=09Subject:=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20Re:=20Gazette=2011=20Feb=20
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>=09=09=09And=20to=20shift=20the=20discussion=20a=20little=20sideways,=20wh=
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>=09=09=09
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>=09=09=09=09-----Original=20Message-----
>=09=09=09=09From:=20Chartered=20Library=20and=20Information=20Professional=
>s=20[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On=20Behalf=20Of=20Mike=20Morris
>=09=09=09=09Sent:=2014=20February=202005=2011:44
>=09=09=09=09To:[log in to unmask]
>=09=09=09=09Subject:=20Re:=20Gazette=2011=20Feb
>=09=09=09=09
>=09=09=09=09
>=09=09=09=09If=20it's=20anything=20like=20Oxford,=20a=20job=20of=20this=20=
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>=09=09=09=09=20=20
>=09=09=09=09Mike=20Morris,=20Librarian,=20ISCA=20
>=09=09=09=0951=20Banbury=20Rd.,=20Oxford=20OX2=206PE=2001865=20274671=20
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>=09=09=09=20=20_____=20
>=09=09=09
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>=09=09=09=09From:=20Chartered=20Library=20and=20Information=20Professional=
>s=20[mailto:[log in to unmask]]=20On=20Behalf=20Of=20Adrian=20Smith
>=09=09=09=09Sent:=2014=20February=202005=2011:29
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>=09=09=09=09No=20doubt=20there's=20a=20Trade=20Union=20recognised=20at=20t=
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>=09=09=09=09
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>=09=09=09=09=20=20
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>=09=09=09=09=09-----Original=20Message-----
>=09=09=09=09=09From:=20Chartered=20Library=20and=20Information=20Professio=
>nals=20[mailto:[log in to unmask]]=20On=20Behalf=20Of=20Carden,=20Ka=
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>=09=09=09=09=09Sent:=2011=20February=202005=2011:13
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>=09=09=09=09=09They're=20having=20a=20laugh.=20Probably.=20
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>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:48:37 -0000
>From: Adrian Smith <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Gazette 11 Feb
>
>The _Prospect_ website has details of this week's action at the Science
>Museum:
>
>"... threatened the closure of the Science Museum library with the
>potential loss of 14 world-leading specialists and the majority of its
>archive."
>
>http://www.prospect.org.uk/news/newsstory.php?news=3D270&prs=3D1330980ce8=
>592
>4127515df1e1683e245
>
>"Over 200 Prospect members at the National Museum of Science and
>Industry are taking strike action on Wednesday February 16. "
>
>"The strike will be the first taken by Prospect members at NMSI since
>1993. Members of the PCS union, who work as warders, managers, security
>and administrative staff, have also voted to take part in the day of
>action, which takes place during half-term."
>
>-----------------------------------
>
>Adrian Smith, Headingley
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Briggs
>Sent: 14 February 2005 11:49
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Gazette 11 Feb
>
>
>Mike Morris wrote:
> > If it's anything like Oxford, a job of this level won't be=20
> > academic-related, and the AUT won't be interested.
>
>It's nothing like Oxford. The union at the BM would be Prospect.
>
>John Briggs
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:13:59 -0000
>From: Frances Hendrix <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Gazette 11 Feb
>
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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>I have been biding my time since the huge flurry of emails around the =
>proposed (now actual) changes to subscription for Cilip membership.
>=20
>Towards the end of that debate, I was slightly hopeful that Cilip would =
>take up the challenge of engaging with its members, potential members =
>and non members in what they wanted, how they could help, what Cilip =
>currently offered et etc. I even had an email from a Cilip Council =
>member asking what could be done.
>=20
>And what have we had since the AGM, well, it seems to me nothing.
>=20
>It is high time Cilip came out of its closet and actually stated what is =
>its role in the discussion re posts that pay a pittance. What way they =
>can help staff in the information services, and what they intend to do =
>about appalling salaries. Lets have that big debate, maybe some regional =
>meetings, maybe some small intimate meetings discussing ALL the issues =
>raised last time we went round this particular. Is Cilip a responsive =
>membership organisation?.
>=20
>Come on Bob, lets hear it from you and your advisors, lets get some =
>action on this long running saga!
>=20
>Some of your members need help!! and of course are poised to renew or =
>not, their subscription. (do you even see these emails?).
>Frances
>
>________________________________
>
>From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals =
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mcsean, Tony (ELS)
>Sent: 14 February 2005 11:28
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Gazette 11 Feb
>
>
>Yes I do, which is why I hold the opinion I've stated, but accepting =
>paid advertising for a recruitment free sheet is not an especially =
>important element in big picture.
>=20
>
>Tony McSe=E1n=20
>Director of Library Relations=20
>Elsevier=20
>+44 7795 960516=20
>+44 1865 843630=20
>
>=20
>
>________________________________
>
>From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals =
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dobson, Malcolm
>Sent: 14 February 2005 11:00
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Gazette 11 Feb
>
>
>
>Does Tony really think that the proper recognition - including financial =
>recognition - of professional qualification & expertise isn't =
>particularly important?
>
>And wasn't one of the arguments in support of the changes to the =
>subscription structure that it would encourage lots of new members & =
>make it easier for existing members to renew, thereby increasing =
>subscription revenue? So perhaps the loss of income from a few =
>advertisements wouldn't have such an impact, & CILIP could take a =
>principled stand against low pay?
>
>Malcolm S. Dobson=20
>Librarian=20
>James B.P. Ferguson Library=20
>Lanarkshire NHS Board=20
>14 Beckford St=20
>Hamilton ML3 0TA=20
>
>01698 281313 ext 6209=20
>
>'Knowledge is power' - Christopher Dresser=20
>
>The views expressed above are my own and not those of NHS Lanarkshire=20
>
>
> -----Original Message-----=20
> From: Mcsean, Tony (ELS) [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]=20
> Sent: 14 February 2005 09:54=20
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Gazette 11 Feb=20
>
> My view has always been that these adverts should be turned away
>but =
>that the issue is not a particularly important one.
>
>=09
> Or we could just close Enterprises and see our Cilip
>subscriptions =
>double.=20
> =20
> Tony McSe=E1n
> Director of Library Relations
> Elsevier
> +44 7795 960516
> +44 1865 843630=20
> =20
>
> _____=20
>=09
> From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals =
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gillian Edwards
> Sent: 12 February 2005 10:00
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Gazette 11 Feb
>=09
>=09
> Hello
>=09
> I think this is an instance where CILIP could and should have
>stepped =
>in.
> I know there is an argument that if you are desperate for a =
>job/experience you may be tempted to apply for things at such shocking =
>pay but at least if CILIP stepped in to try to show said employer the =
>error of their ways and, if unsuccessful refused to accept the advert =
>and then publicised that fact in the Gazette or Update then any =
>qualified librarian who did apply (if the ad was run elsewhere), would =
>do so knowing they were going against the express advice of their =
>professional colleagues. It might make some people think twice. A kite =
>mark for CILIP approved adverts has been discussed before hasn't =
>it-perhaps that is some kind of answer?
>=09
> Gillian Edwards
> Greenwich Council
>=09
> Mike Morris wrote:
>=09
>
> <![endif]-->=20
>
> Just to say I hope colleagues won't start an IKEA-style
>stampede to =
>apply for the British Museum job (p. 12). I mean, degree, experience, =
>chartership and languages-all for 16k!!=20
>
> Seriously, are they having a laugh? Or are the BM a bit
>strapped for =
>cash?=20
>
>
>
> Mike Morris, Librarian, ISCA=20
>
> 51 Banbury Rd., Oxford OX2 6PE 01865 274671=20
>
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>color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I have been biding my time since the huge =
>flurry of emails=20
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>membership.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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>face=3DArial=20
>color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Towards the end of that debate, I was slightly =
>hopeful that=20
>Cilip would take up the challenge of engaging with its members, =
>potential=20
>members and non members in what they wanted, how they could help, what =
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>member asking=20
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>color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>And what have we had since the AGM, well, it =
>seems to me=20
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>color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>It is high time Cilip came out of its closet =
>and actually=20
>stated what is its role in the discussion re posts that pay a pittance. =
>What way=20
>they can help staff in the information services, and what they intend to =
>do=20
>about appalling salaries. Lets have that big debate, maybe some regional =
>
>meetings, maybe some small intimate meetings discussing ALL the issues =
>raised=20
> last time we went round this particular. Is Cilip a responsive =
>membership=20
>organisation?.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
><DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN =
>class=3D913360215-14022005></SPAN> </DIV>
><DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D913360215-14022005><FONT =
>face=3DArial=20
>color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Come on Bob, lets hear it from you and your =
>advisors, lets=20
>get some action on this long running</FONT> <FONT face=3DArial =
>color=3D#0000ff=20
>size=3D2>saga!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
><DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN =
>class=3D913360215-14022005></SPAN> </DIV>
><DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D913360215-14022005><FONT =
>face=3DArial=20
>color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Some of your members need =
>help!!</FONT> <FONT=20
>face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2> and of course are poised to renew =
>or not, their=20
>subscription. (do you even see these emails?).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
><DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D913360215-14022005><FONT =
>face=3DArial=20
>color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Frances</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
><DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>
><HR tabIndex=3D-1>
><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> Chartered Library and =
>Information=20
>Professionals [mailto:[log in to unmask]] <B>On Behalf Of =
></B>Mcsean, Tony=20
>(ELS)<BR><B>Sent:</B> 14 February 2005 11:28<BR><B>To:</B>=20
>[log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Gazette 11=20
>Feb<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
><DIV></DIV>
><DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D891492011-14022005><FONT =
>face=3DArial=20
>color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Yes I do, which is why I hold the opinion I've =
>stated, but=20
>accepting paid advertising for a recruitment free sheet is not an =
>especially=20
>important element in big picture.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
><DIV> </DIV><!-- Converted from text/rtf format -->
><P><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tony =
>McSe=E1n</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN=20
>lang=3Den-gb><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Director of Library =
>Relations</FONT></SPAN>=20
><BR><SPAN lang=3Den-gb><FONT face=3DArial =
>size=3D2>Elsevier</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN=20
>lang=3Den-gb><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>+44 7795 960516</FONT></SPAN> =
><BR><SPAN=20
>lang=3Den-gb><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>+44 1865 843630</FONT></SPAN> =
></P>
><DIV> </DIV><BR>
><DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>
><HR tabIndex=3D-1>
><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> Chartered Library and =
>Information=20
>Professionals [mailto:[log in to unmask]] <B>On Behalf Of =
></B>Dobson,=20
>Malcolm<BR><B>Sent:</B> 14 February 2005 11:00<BR><B>To:</B>=20
>[log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Gazette 11=20
>Feb<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
><DIV></DIV>
><P><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Does Tony really think =
>that the proper=20
>recognition - including financial recognition - of professional =
>qualification=20
>& expertise isn't particularly important?</FONT></P>
><P><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>And wasn't one of the =
>arguments in=20
>support of the changes to the subscription structure that it would =
>encourage=20
>lots of new members & make it easier for existing members to renew, =
>thereby=20
>increasing subscription revenue? So perhaps the loss of income from a =
>few=20
>advertisements wouldn't have such an impact, & CILIP could take a =
>principled=20
>stand against low pay?</FONT></P>
><P><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2>Malcolm S. Dobson</FONT> =
><BR><FONT=20
>face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2>Librarian</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
>face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2>James B.P. Ferguson Library</FONT> =
><BR><FONT=20
>face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2>Lanarkshire NHS Board</FONT> =
><BR><FONT=20
>face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2>14 Beckford St</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
>face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2>Hamilton ML3 0TA</FONT> </P>
><P><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2>01698 281313 ext =
>6209</FONT> </P>
><P><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2>'Knowledge is power' - =
>Christopher=20
>Dresser</FONT> </P>
><P><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2>The views expressed above =
>are my own=20
>and not those of NHS Lanarkshire</FONT> </P><BR>
><UL>
> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1>-----Original Message-----</FONT> =
><BR><B><FONT=20
> face=3DArial size=3D1>From: </FONT></B> <FONT face=3DArial =
>size=3D1>Mcsean,=20
> Tony (ELS) [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]</FONT> <BR><B><FONT =
>face=3DArial=20
> size=3D1>Sent: </FONT></B> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D1>14 =
>February 2005=20
> 09:54</FONT> <BR><B><FONT face=3DArial=20
> size=3D1>To: </FONT></B> <FONT face=3DArial=20
> size=3D1>[log in to unmask]</FONT> <BR><B><FONT face=3DArial=20
> size=3D1>Subject: </FONT></B> =
><FONT=20
> face=3DArial size=3D1>Re: Gazette 11 Feb</FONT> </P>
> <P><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2> My view has =
>always been that=20
> these adverts should be turned away but that the issue is not a =
>particularly=20
> important one.</FONT></P>
> <P><FONT face=3DArial></FONT><BR><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
>size=3D2> Or=20
> we could just close Enterprises and see our Cilip subscriptions =
>double.</FONT>=20
> <BR><FONT face=3DArial> </FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial =
>size=3D2>Tony=20
> McSe=E1n</FONT><FONT face=3DArial><BR></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
>size=3D2>Director of=20
> Library Relations</FONT><FONT face=3DArial><BR></FONT><FONT =
>face=3DArial=20
> size=3D2>Elsevier</FONT><FONT face=3DArial><BR></FONT><FONT =
>face=3DArial size=3D2>+44=20
> 7795 960516</FONT><FONT face=3DArial><BR></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
>size=3D2>+44 1865=20
> 843630</FONT><FONT face=3DArial> </FONT><BR><FONT =
>face=3DArial> </FONT> </P>
> <P><U><FONT face=3D"Courier New"> =
>_____ <BR></FONT></U><BR><B><FONT=20
> face=3DTahoma size=3D2>From:</FONT></B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2> =
>Chartered Library=20
> and Information Professionals [<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">mailto:[log in to unmask]<=
>/A>]</FONT><B>=20
> <FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>On Behalf Of</FONT></B> <FONT =
>face=3DTahoma=20
> size=3D2>Gillian Edwards<BR></FONT><B><FONT face=3DTahoma=20
> size=3D2>Sent:</FONT></B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2> 12 February =
>2005=20
> 10:00<BR></FONT><B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>To:</FONT></B><FONT =
>face=3DTahoma=20
> size=3D2> [log in to unmask]<BR></FONT><B><FONT face=3DTahoma=20
> size=3D2>Subject:</FONT></B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2> Re: Gazette =
>11=20
> Feb<BR></FONT><BR><BR><FONT face=3DArial>Hello<BR><BR>I think this is =
>an=20
> instance where CILIP could and should have stepped in.<BR>I know there =
>is an=20
> argument that if you are desperate for a job/experience you may be =
>tempted to=20
> apply for things at such shocking pay but at least if CILIP =
>stepped in=20
> to try to show said employer the error of their ways and, if =
>unsuccessful=20
> refused to accept the advert and then publicised that fact in the =
>Gazette or=20
> Update then any qualified librarian who did apply (if the ad was run=20
> elsewhere), would do so knowing they were going against the express =
>advice of=20
> their professional colleagues. It might make some people think =
>twice. A=20
> kite mark for CILIP approved adverts has been discussed before hasn't=20
> it-perhaps that is some kind of answer?<BR><BR>Gillian =
>Edwards<BR>Greenwich=20
> Council<BR><BR>Mike Morris wrote:<BR></FONT></P>
> <UL>
> <P><FONT face=3DArial><![endif]--> </FONT></P>
> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just to say I hope colleagues won't =
>start an=20
> IKEA-style stampede to apply for the British Museum job (p. 12). I =
>mean,=20
> degree, experience, chartership and languages-all for 16k!!</FONT> =
></P>
> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Seriously, are they having a laugh? =
>Or are the BM=20
> a bit strapped for cash?</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
> <P><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Mike Morris, Librarian, =
>ISCA</FONT> </P>
> <P><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">51 Banbury Rd.</FONT><FONT =
>face=3DArial>,=20
> Oxford OX2 6PE 01865 274671</FONT> </P><BR><BR><BR></UL></UL><FONT=20
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>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:35:59 -0000
>From: Frances Hendrix <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Gazette 11 Feb
>
>Compare and contrast
>Director, Hayward Gallery
>Link to newspaper job ad=20
>Organisation: Transforming South Bank Centre=20
>
>Location:=20
>Salary: Circa =A365,000=20
>Date posted: 13 Feb 05=20
>Closing date: 15 Mar 05 =20
>
>
>
>Job description
>TRANSFORMING SOUTH BANK CENTRE
>
>South Bank Centre London
>Royal Festival Hall
>Hayward Gallery
>
>Circa =A365,000
>
>Reporting to the Artistic Director, you will be a key member of the team =
>taking the South Bank Centre into an exciting future that includes the =
>renovation of the RFH and its re-opening in 2007, the 40th birthday of =
>the Hayward Gallery and the 60th birthday of the Arts Council =
>Collection.
>
>You will be responsible for the development of the programme of =
>exhibitions for the Hayward Gallery within the framework of the wider =
>artistic vision of the Centre and for the broader role of the visual =
>arts across the South Bank Centre. In addition you will be responsible =
>for the development and revitalisation of our National Touring Programme =
>and the expansion of the role of the Arts Council Collection.
>
>Working as part of the senior management team, you will lead the team of =
>curators and managers responsible for the delivery of the Visual Arts =
>programme, its development and installation, publications, education and =
>communication.
>
>You will have experience in leading a contemporary gallery, an =
>international profile and relationships with key senior figures in the =
>arts world. You will have strong management skills and a genuine =
>interest in working within a multi-art form organisation.
>
>The South Bank Board is an equal opportunities employer. Applications =
>are welcome from all members of the community.
>
>
>Head of Library Service
>
>Organisation: The Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea=20
>
>Location: Central London
>Salary: =A344,000 - =A359,500 plus benefits=20
>Date posted: 06 Feb 05=20
>Closing date: 24 Feb 05 =20
>
>
>
>Job description
>Beano to Britannia.
>Lion
>King to La Traviata.
>Minogue to Mozart. And everything in-between.
>
>With over 100 languages spoken in our small and vibrant borough, meeting =
>the cultural needs of all our residents is no small task. After all, =
>ours is a borough of contrasts and one where areas of extreme wealth =
>exist alongside areas of extreme poverty. Personal tastes in music, =
>literature, museums and the arts vary enormously and our mission at the =
>Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea is to satisfy everyone's tastes =
>with a long-term programme of cultural development.
>
>=A344,000 - =A359,500 (incl. of average PRP bonus)
>
>Responsible for implementing a new library strategy, you'll direct the =
>modernisation of our service over the next 10 years. With a re-modelling =
>programme of the central library planned to start, your brief will be to =
>take exciting ideas and make them work in practice. As well as senior =
>management experience, gained in a quality public library, you'll need =
>to relish a challenge and be able to think strategically. Ref: EE805.
>
>Assessments will be held 8 March and interviews will be held 18 March =
>2005.
>
>We are at the start of an exciting future. A future you can make your =
>mark on.
>
>THE ROYAL BOROUGH OF KENSINGTON AND CHELSEA
>=20
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals =
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Briggs
>Sent: 14 February 2005 12:14
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Gazette 11 Feb
>
>Samantha Brookes wrote:
> > We can't judge the people who take the jobs. What if your dream job is =
>
> > to work for the British Museum and this is your only way to get in? Or =
>
> > what if you have been unemployed for years and this is the only job=20
> > you can get? If you are a qualified librarian you may prefer to take=20
> > this job rather than work on a supermarket checkout!
>
>I think you are getting close to the answer. Bear in mind that someone =
>who has been unemployed for years, or for whom the alternative is the =
>supermarket checkout, would be unable to take the job. It is the "dream =
>job" for someone who doesn't need the money.
>
>John Briggs
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:02:37 -0000
>From: "Mcsean, Tony (ELS)" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Gazette 11 Feb
>
>I'm missing the point you're making here, Frances. =20
>
>On the one hand we have the director of one of our most important art
>galleries with a touring programme of national importance. The person =
>spec
>requires an international reputation in the visual arts and the job =
>spec
>requires you to be a senior participant in the strategic direction of =
>the
>capital's most important centre of the visual and performing arts. =20
>
>On the other hand you have the librarian of a nice but smallish London
>Borough, reporting to a chief officer who is also responsible for =
>education
>and the arts. It looks like the borough is looking for someone =
>prepared to
>do something exciting within an unusually disparate community and that =
>there
>may be the resources and political will to make it an exciting job.
>
>The range of salary for the library posts seems to be strangely broad =
>but
>tops out at around 90% of the gallery job. Comparisons between greatly
>dissimilar jobs are always hard to draw, but this one doesn't seem =
>bizarre.
>
>Tony
>
>
>Tony McSe=E1n
>Director of Library Relations
>Elsevier
>+44 7795 960516
>+44 1865 843630
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Frances Hendrix
>Sent: 14 February 2005 15:36
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Gazette 11 Feb
>
>Compare and contrast
>Director, Hayward Gallery
>Link to newspaper job ad
>Organisation: Transforming South Bank Centre=20
>
>Location:=20
>Salary: Circa =A365,000
>Date posted: 13 Feb 05=20
>Closing date: 15 Mar 05 =20
>
>
>
>Job description
>TRANSFORMING SOUTH BANK CENTRE
>
>South Bank Centre London
>Royal Festival Hall
>Hayward Gallery
>
>Circa =A365,000
>
>Reporting to the Artistic Director, you will be a key member of the =
>team
>taking the South Bank Centre into an exciting future that includes the
>renovation of the RFH and its re-opening in 2007, the 40th birthday of =
>the
>Hayward Gallery and the 60th birthday of the Arts Council Collection.
>
>You will be responsible for the development of the programme of =
>exhibitions
>for the Hayward Gallery within the framework of the wider artistic =
>vision of
>the Centre and for the broader role of the visual arts across the South =
>Bank
>Centre. In addition you will be responsible for the development and
>revitalisation of our National Touring Programme and the expansion of =
>the
>role of the Arts Council Collection.
>
>Working as part of the senior management team, you will lead the team =
>of
>curators and managers responsible for the delivery of the Visual Arts
>programme, its development and installation, publications, education =
>and
>communication.
>
>You will have experience in leading a contemporary gallery, an =
>international
>profile and relationships with key senior figures in the arts world. =
>You
>will have strong management skills and a genuine interest in working =
>within
>a multi-art form organisation.
>
>The South Bank Board is an equal opportunities employer. Applications =
>are
>welcome from all members of the community.
>
>
>Head of Library Service
>
>Organisation: The Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea=20
>
>Location: Central London
>Salary: =A344,000 - =A359,500 plus benefits=20
>Date posted: 06 Feb 05=20
>Closing date: 24 Feb 05 =20
>
>
>
>Job description
>Beano to Britannia.
>Lion
>King to La Traviata.
>Minogue to Mozart. And everything in-between.
>
>With over 100 languages spoken in our small and vibrant borough, =
>meeting the
>cultural needs of all our residents is no small task. After all, ours =
>is a
>borough of contrasts and one where areas of extreme wealth exist =
>alongside
>areas of extreme poverty. Personal tastes in music, literature, museums =
>and
>the arts vary enormously and our mission at the Royal Borough of =
>Kensington
>and Chelsea is to satisfy everyone's tastes with a long-term programme =
>of
>cultural development.
>
>=A344,000 - =A359,500 (incl. of average PRP bonus)
>
>Responsible for implementing a new library strategy, you'll direct the
>modernisation of our service over the next 10 years. With a =
>re-modelling
>programme of the central library planned to start, your brief will be =
>to
>take exciting ideas and make them work in practice. As well as senior
>management experience, gained in a quality public library, you'll need =
>to
>relish a challenge and be able to think strategically. Ref: EE805.
>
>Assessments will be held 8 March and interviews will be held 18 March =
>2005.
>
>We are at the start of an exciting future. A future you can make your =
>mark
>on.
>
>THE ROYAL BOROUGH OF KENSINGTON AND CHELSEA
>=20
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Briggs
>Sent: 14 February 2005 12:14
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Gazette 11 Feb
>
>Samantha Brookes wrote:
> > We can't judge the people who take the jobs. What if your dream job =
>is=20
> > to work for the British Museum and this is your only way to get in? =
>Or=20
> > what if you have been unemployed for years and this is the only job=20
> > you can get? If you are a qualified librarian you may prefer to take=20
> > this job rather than work on a supermarket checkout!
>
>I think you are getting close to the answer. Bear in mind that someone =
>who
>has been unemployed for years, or for whom the alternative is the
>supermarket checkout, would be unable to take the job. It is the =
>"dream
>job" for someone who doesn't need the money.
>
>John Briggs
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:26:21 -0000
>From: Amy Millis <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Get technical with TFPL
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>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:28:58 +0000
>From: M cotera <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Video about reading and/or school libraries
>
>Hi there
>
>Would anyone know of a video about reading and/or school libraries that
>would help inform teachers, especially one that features ethnic minorities
>amongst the people in it.
>
>Best wishes,
>Maria
>
>
>Maria Cotera,
>Cataloguer,
>Library Services,
>University College London,
>Gower Street,
>London WC1E 6BT.
>
>Tel: 020 7679 2302
>[log in to unmask]
>http://www.ucl.ac.uk
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:43:35 -0000
>From: Eva Hornung <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Video about reading and/or school libraries
>
>Hi Maria
>
>We have a video called "Between the lines: Literacy at Junior Cycle", which
>basically looks at literacy issues. Would that help? I'm happy to send you
>a
>copy and also a copy of the teacher's book that goes with it.
>
>Kind regards,
>Eva
>
>
>Dipl.-Bibl. (FH) Eva Hornung MLIS ALAI
>Librarian
>
>____________________________________
>Contact person for Library/Resource Centre/
>Publications and Web Site
>____________________________________
>
>Address:
>Library/Resource Centre
>Curriculum Development Unit
>Sundrive Road
>Crumlin
>Dublin 12
>Ireland
>
>Tel: 01-453 5487
>Fax:01-453 7659
>Email: [log in to unmask]
>Web Site: http://www.curriculum.ie
>
>_______________________________________
>Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
>Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
>- Groucho MARX
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "M cotera" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 4:28 PM
>Subject: Video about reading and/or school libraries
>
>
> > Hi there
> >
> > Would anyone know of a video about reading and/or school libraries that
> > would help inform teachers, especially one that features ethnic
>minorities
> > amongst the people in it.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Maria
> >
> >
> > Maria Cotera,
> > Cataloguer,
> > Library Services,
> > University College London,
> > Gower Street,
> > London WC1E 6BT.
> >
> > Tel: 020 7679 2302
> > [log in to unmask]
> > http://www.ucl.ac.uk
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:16:46 -0000
>From: webmaster <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Would welcome advice.
>
>I've just written a book on an historical/literary theme which has a small
>print run but it has a 2 page article in the Times Lit Supp this week and
>has attracted quite a lot of attention in its little circle. I wanted it
>basically to go into libraries but I knew that there would be some
>collectors so I put out a numbered edition for them. However, I'm getting
>quite a few collectors who seem to think that it is going to become
>valuable and so they're buying the regular copies too, for investment.
>
>My main aim in producing this book was to provide a resource for students
>and scholars as it contains information which is not available anywhere
>else. I don't particularly want to be sending off multiple copies to
>people
>who hope to hang on to them and re-sell (heck I could do that myself) and
>would at least like to bring the book to the notice of librarians and
>ensure
>that they have the chance to buy (or reserve) a copy if they think they
>would have the readers for it. But basically I don't know how libraries
>work. Apart from The Bookseller (which will get info from Whitakers, I
>guess) I have no idea of how to bring the book to the attention of public
>and university librarians. How would other people on the list tackle this
>if they were in my position? I am not desperate to flog my book, just keen
>to see that the small number of copies that exist get to those who need to
>use it rather than to those who want to speculate with it. Best wishes,
>Jenny Woolf.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:46:01 -0000
>From: John Briggs <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Would welcome advice.
>
>Jenny Woolf wrote:
> >
> > I've just written a book on an historical/literary theme which has a
> > small print run but it has a 2 page article in the Times Lit Supp
> > this week and has attracted quite a lot of attention in its little
> > circle. I wanted it basically to go into libraries but I knew that
> > there would be some collectors so I put out a numbered edition for
> > them. However, I'm getting quite a few collectors who seem to think
> > that it is going to become valuable and so they're buying the regular
> > copies too, for investment.
>
>You've probably done enough. Public libraries don't seem to buy that sort
>of book any more (even on Lewis Carroll), and university librarians will
>have seen the TLS article - but they may wait for their academic staff to
>clamour for it. What is more mysterious is why you made it a limited
>edition. Didn't you make arrangements so that it could easily be reprinted
>if the edition sold out? Did you price it correctly? Publishers usually
>reckon on five times the printing/binding cost, divided by the number
>expected to sell, as the retail price. If you can't afford to reprint
>after
>selling the entire printrun to speculators, you have done something wrong!
>
>John Briggs
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:00:19 -0000
>From: Julian Dawson <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Would welcome advice.
>
>Hmm. Another fun day on LIS-CILIP.
>
>Whatever happened to politeness, diplomacy, tact and (heaven forbid) charm.
>
>Perhaps I'll just put it down to a Monday.
>
>I am afraid that I cannot give you any sensible advice Jenny, but I hope
>someone will point you in the right direction. Oh, and good luck with the
>book.
>
>Julian Dawson
>Senior Librarian
>Arup
>13 Fitzroy Street
>London W1T 4BQ
>T 020 7755 3228
>F 020 7755 2126
>E [log in to unmask]
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Briggs
>Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 17:46
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Would welcome advice.
>
>Jenny Woolf wrote:
> >
> > I've just written a book on an historical/literary theme which has a
> > small print run but it has a 2 page article in the Times Lit Supp this
> > week and has attracted quite a lot of attention in its little
> > circle. I wanted it basically to go into libraries but I knew that
> > there would be some collectors so I put out a numbered edition for
> > them. However, I'm getting quite a few collectors who seem to think
> > that it is going to become valuable and so they're buying the regular
> > copies too, for investment.
>
>You've probably done enough. Public libraries don't seem to buy that sort
>of book any more (even on Lewis Carroll), and university librarians will
>have seen the TLS article - but they may wait for their academic staff to
>clamour for it. What is more mysterious is why you made it a limited
>edition. Didn't you make arrangements so that it could easily be reprinted
>if the edition sold out? Did you price it correctly? Publishers usually
>reckon on five times the printing/binding cost, divided by the number
>expected to sell, as the retail price. If you can't afford to reprint
>after
>selling the entire printrun to speculators, you have done something wrong!
>
>John Briggs
>
>___________________________________________________________________
>Electronic mail messages entering and leaving Arup business
>systems are scanned for acceptability of content and viruses.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:24:33 -0000
>From: webmaster <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Would welcome advice.
>
>Thanks.
>Best wishes, Jenny
>
>From: "Julian Dawson" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 6:00 PM
>Subject: Re: Would welcome advice.
>
>
> > Hmm. Another fun day on LIS-CILIP.
> >
> > Whatever happened to politeness, diplomacy, tact and (heaven forbid)
>charm.
> >
> > Perhaps I'll just put it down to a Monday.
> >
> > I am afraid that I cannot give you any sensible advice Jenny, but I hope
> > someone will point you in the right direction. Oh, and good luck with
>the
> > book.
> >
> > Julian Dawson
> > Senior Librarian
> > Arup
> > 13 Fitzroy Street
> > London W1T 4BQ
> > T 020 7755 3228
> > F 020 7755 2126
> > E [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Briggs
> > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 17:46
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Would welcome advice.
> >
> > Jenny Woolf wrote:
> > >
> > > I've just written a book on an historical/literary theme which has a
> > > small print run but it has a 2 page article in the Times Lit Supp this
> > > week and has attracted quite a lot of attention in its little
> > > circle. I wanted it basically to go into libraries but I knew that
> > > there would be some collectors so I put out a numbered edition for
> > > them. However, I'm getting quite a few collectors who seem to think
> > > that it is going to become valuable and so they're buying the regular
> > > copies too, for investment.
> >
> > You've probably done enough. Public libraries don't seem to buy that
>sort
> > of book any more (even on Lewis Carroll), and university librarians will
> > have seen the TLS article - but they may wait for their academic staff
>to
> > clamour for it. What is more mysterious is why you made it a limited
> > edition. Didn't you make arrangements so that it could easily be
>reprinted
> > if the edition sold out? Did you price it correctly? Publishers
>usually
> > reckon on five times the printing/binding cost, divided by the number
> > expected to sell, as the retail price. If you can't afford to reprint
>after
> > selling the entire printrun to speculators, you have done something
>wrong!
> >
> > John Briggs
> >
> > ___________________________________________________________________
> > Electronic mail messages entering and leaving Arup business
> > systems are scanned for acceptability of content and viruses.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:31:26 +0000
>From: M cotera <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Video about reading and/or school libraries
>
>Dear Eva
>
>Many thanks for your pront reply and your kind offer. I am writing on my
>role of Associate International Officer of the Career Development Group.
>
>One of my colleagues, Hazel Dakers from the British Library, is going on a
>trip to South Africa and will go to visit Tolimfundo Primary School in
>Soweto. CDG is supporting the school in the creation of a library and we
>are looking for a suitable literacy for primary schools video and/or
>accompanying materials which Hazel has offered to take to the school.
>
>We would be very grateful if you could send us a copy. Hazel is leaving on
>sunday and post is
>unreliable so she will need to get it Friday though. If you think that is
>possible her address is
>
>Hazel Dakers,
>The Cedars,
>2 Upper Butts,
>Brentford
>Middx TW8 8DA.
>
>Many thanks in advance,
>Maria
>
>At 16:43 14/02/2005 +0000, you wrote:
> >Hi Maria
> >
> >We have a video called "Between the lines: Literacy at Junior Cycle",
>which
> >basically looks at literacy issues. Would that help? I'm happy to send
>you a
> >copy and also a copy of the teacher's book that goes with it.
> >
> >Kind regards,
> >Eva
> >
> >
> >Dipl.-Bibl. (FH) Eva Hornung MLIS ALAI
> >Librarian
> >
> >____________________________________
> >Contact person for Library/Resource Centre/
> >Publications and Web Site
> >____________________________________
> >
> >Address:
> >Library/Resource Centre
> >Curriculum Development Unit
> >Sundrive Road
> >Crumlin
> >Dublin 12
> >Ireland
> >
> >Tel: 01-453 5487
> >Fax:01-453 7659
> >Email: [log in to unmask]
> >Web Site: http://www.curriculum.ie
> >
> >_______________________________________
> >Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
> >Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
> >- Groucho MARX
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "M cotera" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 4:28 PM
> >Subject: Video about reading and/or school libraries
> >
> >
> > > Hi there
> > >
> > > Would anyone know of a video about reading and/or school libraries
>that
> > > would help inform teachers, especially one that features ethnic
>minorities
> > > amongst the people in it.
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > > Maria
> > >
> > >
> > > Maria Cotera,
> > > Cataloguer,
> > > Library Services,
> > > University College London,
> > > Gower Street,
> > > London WC1E 6BT.
> > >
> > > Tel: 020 7679 2302
> > > [log in to unmask]
> > > http://www.ucl.ac.uk
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Maria Cotera
>Associate International Officer
>Career Development Group
>http://www.careerdevelopmentgroup.org.uk
>
>Tel: + 44 (0)20 7679 2302
>Email: [log in to unmask]
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:19:49 -0000
>From: Jill Halford <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: FW: City Business Library visit
>
>Visit to the City Business Library
>
>
>The ICLG committee have organised a tour of the City Business Library on
>Tuesday 22nd February at 2.30pm. The tour should last approximately 1 =
>1/2
>hours and is free of charge. A maximum of 10 people are permitted on the
>tour.
>
>If you would like to attend the visit please send your details to;
>
>Kim Pilbeam
>Senior Information Officer
>Macfarlanes
>
>email: [log in to unmask]
>
>The City Business Library is one of the leading business information =
>sources
>in the country, situated in the heart of the City of London. The =
>collection
>is used by the City and the wider community of London, the UK and =
>overseas.
>The Library holds specialist collections covering the City, companies,
>countries, directories, European Union, markets, periodicals and =
>newspapers.
>The Library also has a chargeable research service, Business Information
>Focus, which is staffed by experienced business information specialists =
>who
>can carry out tailor-made research assignments.
>
>City Business Library
>1 Brewers' Hall Garden
>(Off Aldermanbury Square)
>London EC2V 5BX
>
>
>
>The ICLG supports and promotes the professional interests of all members
>involved in special libraries and information centres in the workplace
>sector. It has an active programme to facilitate professional =
>development,
>encourages and supports activities in the regions and provides a voice =
>for
>the workplace sector by offering comment on national and topical issues
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>
>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:09:07 +0000
>From: R Adam <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: [press] Announcing the Public Warning Network Challenge
>
>Announcing the 'Public Warning Network Challenge'
>A Call for Collaborative Action
>
>Reston, VA - 14th February 2005 - The disaster that followed the tsunami of
>December 2004 has challenged providers of information and communications
>technologies to find ways to improve public warning. Warning systems must
>be
>able to alert the public about major hazards and should communicate warning
>messages via all available notification methods.
>
>Because the Internet will play a significant role in the efficient
>distribution of these time-critical alerts, the Internet Society (ISOC) has
>launched the 'Public Warning Network Challenge' - a call for collaborative
>action in order to make such public warning systems a reality.
>
>The Challenge
>
>Collaborative actions are necessary to assure that standards-based,
>all-media,
>all-hazards public warning becomes an essential infrastructure component
>available to all societies worldwide.
>
>"Any organization involved in an aspect of public warning is invited to
>endorse the 'Public Warning Network Challenge' and indicate how they are
>able
>to collaborate on this goal," said Lynn St.Amour, President and CEO of the
>Internet Society. "This is an excellent opportunity to show how diverse
>organisations and entities, supported by the Internet, can work together to
>develop a global partnership for development that will enhance the safety
>of
>millions of people."
>
>To endorse the 'Public Warning Network Challenge', organizations may
>complete
>the form here:
>
>http://www.isoc.org/challenge
>
>The WSIS Declaration of Principles has already highlighted the need to pay
>special attention to conditions that pose severe threats to development,
>such
>as natural disasters. The WSIS Action Plan goes on to make a specific call
>to
>establish monitoring systems, using ICTs, to forecast and monitor the
>impact
>of natural and man-made disasters particularly in developing countries,
>LDCs
>and small economies.
>
>To support these goals, The 'Public Warning Network Challenge' will provide
>an
>enabling environment in which stakeholders everywhere can cooperate to
>bring
>the benefits of ICT applications to the area of disaster prevention.
>
>Background
>
>The goal of public warning is that people who are properly alerted will act
>to
>reduce the damage and loss of life caused by a natural or man-made hazard
>event. To ensure that everyone can be alerted, it is essential to leverage
>all
>available communications media. To minimize the public confusion that
>occurs
>during emergencies, the alerting system should be in routine use for all
>hazards, not only for rare events such as earthquakes and tsunami, but for
>severe weather, fire, and other threats.
>
>Authoritative alert messages should transmit on all available
>communications
>media as appropriate, including broadcast or individual targeting. Alerts
>should be converted automatically and securely into forms suitable for each
>technology: Internet messages, news feeds, text captions on television,
>messages on highway signs, voice on radio and telephones, signals for
>sirens,
>etc.
>
>In many nations, common carriers such as radio, television, and telephone
>networks have implemented particular public alert technologies for hazards
>or
>threats such as weather events or civil defence. From the societal
>perspective
>of public warning investments, it makes no sense to continue building a
>separate public warning system for each particular threat. Efficient use of
>funds as well as effectiveness of public warning both argue for using
>standards and combining the public warning requirement for all-media
>coverage
>with the requirement for an all-hazards approach.
>
>A standards-based, all-media, all-hazards public warning strategy not only
>makes sense for governments who need to alert the public, it makes sense
>for a
>wide range of information technology providers and communications carriers
>as
>well.
>
>Many activities are already underway within the Internet community. For
>example, a new proposal for using the Internet to quickly warn large
>numbers
>of people of impending emergencies is currently being drafted by the
>Internet
>Engineering Task Force (IETF).
>
>The content of alert messages is now being standardized across all hazard
>types, including severe weather, fires, earthquakes, and tsunami. In 2004,
>the
>Common Alerting Protocol (CAP) was agreed as an international standard for
>all-hazard alert messages.
>
>#
>
>Useful links:
>
>The 'Public Warning Network Challenge':
>http://www.isoc.org/challenge
>
>Internet draft - 'Structure of an International Emergency Alert System':
>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-baker-alert-system-00.txt
>
>The Common Alerting Protocol:
>http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/emergency/
>
>#
>
>FOR FURTHER DETAILS:
>
>Internet Society: www.isoc.org
>
>Peter Godwin
>Communications Manager
>E-mail: [log in to unmask]
>
>Internet Society
>4, rue des Falaises
>1205 Geneva
>Switzerland
>
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>
>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:18:08 +0000
>From: Mark Benjamin <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Video about reading and/or school libraries
>
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>Hi Maria
>
>Might be able to help but can you be more specific? What part of reading?
>Teaching reading, appropriate texts, kind/age of children?
>
>
>Mark Benjamin
>9 Hencotes,
>Hexham
>NE46 2EQ
>Northumberland
>
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><DIV>Hi Maria</DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV>Might be able to help but can you be more specific? What
>part of reading? Teaching reading, appropriate texts, kind/age of
>children?</DIV><BR><BR>Mark Benjamin<br>9 Hencotes,<br>Hexham<br>NE46
>2EQ<br>Northumberland<p>
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>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:24:50 +0000
>From: Mark Benjamin <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Video about reading and/or school libraries
>
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>Hi Maria
>
>My teaching wife suggests you try www.teachernet.org and follow links
>through to the National Literacy Strategy. Many potentially suitable
>videos listed there. Also the OU has produced an excellent video entitled
>Developing literacy and numeracy.
>
>
>Mark Benjamin
>9 Hencotes,
>Hexham
>NE46 2EQ
>Northumberland
>
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><DIV>Hi Maria</DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV>My teaching wife suggests you try <A
>href="http://www.teachernet.org">www.teachernet.org</A> and follow links
>through to the National Literacy Strategy. Many potentially
>suitable videos listed there. Also the OU has produced an
>excellent video entitled Developing literacy and
>numeracy. </DIV><BR><BR>Mark Benjamin<br>9 Hencotes,<br>Hexham<br>NE46
>2EQ<br>Northumberland<p>
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