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Re: Change in job title

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"Gray, Geraldine" <[log in to unmask]>

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Gray, Geraldine

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Wed, 3 Aug 2005 14:18:46 +0100

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I think so. In my very brief sojourn in Public Libraries 5 years the message went out that the 'Boss' wanted our library to look like a branch of Borders Book Shop, all leather sofas and tables piled high with multiple copies ....but without the same necessary interior design or marketing budget of course!

Geraldine

-----Original Message-----
From: Perry Rowena [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 03 August 2005 13:55
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Change in job title


Is the retail bug spreading to health libraries - public libraries have
become more like retail outlets with face on displays etc which
apparently means less books more issues.

Rowena Perry
Library Manager
Health Informatics Shared Services 

Healthcare Library
Prospect Park Hospital
Honey End Lane
Reading RG30 4EJ

Tel: 0118 960 5020
Fax: 0118 960 5014

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-----Original Message-----
From: UK medical/ health care library community / information workers
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rowley, Margaret
(Charles Hastings)
Sent: 03 August 2005 13:53
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Change in job title

A 'floor walker' was of course a senior member of the sales team in a
retail store responsible for saying 'can I help you sir/madam?' and
referring the customer to the appropriate sales assistant (as in 'Are
you being served?'. I would put 'floor assistant' more into this
category - customer service rather than cleaning.

Margaret Rowley BSc MA MCLIP DMS 
Head of Knowledge Management
Rowlands Library 
Charles Hastings Education Centre
Worcestershire Royal Hospital
Charles Hastings Way
Worcester 
 WR5 1DD
 
Tel:  01905 760601 (direct)
       01905 763333 ext 33765
Fax: 01905 760866 (direct)
       33761 (internal)
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-----Original Message-----
From: UK medical/ health care library community / information workers
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith
Sent: 03 August 2005 11:04
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Change in job title

If I was asked what "floor assistant" conveyed to me, I would probably
say cleaner. Could I point out that "a requirement for manual handling"
could cover dustpan and brush, a bucket and mop, etc. :-)

Gordon.


Gordon Smith
The Sally Howell Library
Epsom General Hospital
Dorking Road
Epsom, Surrey, KT18 7EG
Tel. 01372-735688, Fax 01372-735687
NULJ=HOWE, HLN=EP

<<Cela est bien dit>> rEpondit Candide
<<mais  il faut cultiver notre jardin>>. - Voltaire.

>>> "Stewart, Chloe" <[log in to unmask]> 03/08/2005
10:56:04 >>>
I like Knowledge Choreographer but apparently it's not allowed as an
Agenda
for Change job title.
I agree that 'Floor assistant' is misleading but don't like the
'demeaning'
claim - estates jobs aren't demeaning and in the NHS at least they're
life-saving.

Chloe Stewart
Library Manager (Clinical Services)
Library & Learning Centre
Stobhill Hospital
133 Balornock Road
Glasgow
G21 3UW
Tel:  0141 201 3357
Fax: 0141 201 3357
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-----Original Message-----
From: Juliet brown [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: 03 August 2005 10:52
To: [log in to unmask] 
Subject: Re: Change in job title


Heheheheheeee personally I love that title.  When my husband got a
promotion
at work he was toldl he could pick his title and I suggested he was a
Professor of "clever things", he was not amused, he chose to be Prof of
numerical geosciences (how boring - but he does basically count gravel
as a
living).  I wonder what a non information librarian does.... if I ever
find
one I will have to ask.
J

Juliet Brown
Medical Librarian - Vale of Leven DGH
Never lend books, for no one ever returns them.  The only books I have
in my
library are books that other folks have leant me.
(Anatole France) 
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>>> "Gray, Geraldine" <[log in to unmask]> 08/03/05 10:55am >>>
Talking about Job titles, I agree with Malcolm it does sound like an
amalgam
between porter/security and library assistant. Can I add another
bete-noire
of mine...cannot say how much I am irritated by the title ..Information
Librarian

Geraldine

-----Original Message-----
From: Juliet brown [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: 03 August 2005 10:40
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Subject: Re: Change in job title


hmmmm floor assistants - an ideal job for a floozie called flo.  Sorry,
couldn't help that.  I'm suprised they don't ask for a bit of carpet
laying
or polishing while they are at it.  Perhaps it is just a true reflection
of
what people think.  Must be other wonderful titles out there for our
jobs
cheers, J
(information carer?/wild book handler?)

Juliet Brown
Medical Librarian - Vale of Leven DGH
Never lend books, for no one ever returns them.  The only books I have
in my
library are books that other folks have leant me.
(Anatole France) 
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>>> Ann Brew <[log in to unmask]> 08/03/05 10:02am >>>


Hello,

Has anyone else seen this advert and been horrified by the completely
demeaning title ?

http://www.platform2recruit.co.uk/universityoflondon/pages/jobdetails.as
p?id 
=1490 

Perhaps someone from the relevant department (Library, HR, Recruitment
Office ?) could explain in exactly what way a floor assistant differs
from
a library assistant ? I've taken a look at the job description and it
seems
suspiciously similar to library assistant tasks...

"You will work at the Membership and Circulation and Bibliographic
service-points performing a range of front of house and manual support
duties, including dealing with user enquiries, the issue, return and
renewal of books, servicing the Closed Stack collection, and moving
bookstock. You will also provide support across a range of routine
activities related to the maintenance of book stacks and the up-keep of
the
library areas in general.
Previous experience of working in a customer service or similar
environment
is required and you must possess a helpful and friendly demeanour
combined
with the ability to undertake a number of tasks simultaneously in such a
way as to be immediately helpful to library visitors and users. A good
team
member, able to work independently to meet set targets, you will have
basic
keyboarding skills and the ability to acquire new skills on standard
library systems.
The duties of the post involve a requirement for the manual handling and
movement of furniture, equipment and library bookstock and some
Evening/Saturday duties."

Is this where the library profession is going ? Removing the word
'library'
from all our titles so people will never understand what we do ?

Ann-Emily Brew
Assistant Librarian

BMA Library
British Medical Association
BMA House
Tavistock Square
London
WC1H 9JP

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