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Re: Confusion over NLH, SSE launch, etc.

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"Old Sarah (RNU) OMHT" <[log in to unmask]>

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Old Sarah (RNU) OMHT

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Thu, 6 Jan 2005 10:45:04 -0000

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Just to endorse what Geoff is saying about the importance of having a single
page for our users to orientate from:  I certainly was under the impression
(strongly enforced by all the materials issued for Health Libraries Week,
particularly the resource card) was that the NLH and its web address was the
preferred one.

Sarah Old
Library Services Manager
Oxfordshire Mental Healthcare NHS Trust
Tel  01865 226412
Fax 01865 226378
Register with the National Electronic Library for Health at
http://www.nelh.nhs.uk for access to guidelines, clinical databases, the
Cochrane Library and full-text electronic books and journals, plus many more
health knowledge resources.
 


-----Original Message-----
From: Fleet Geoff (BUCKINGHAMSHIRE SHARED SERVICES)
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: 05 January 2005 10:52
To: [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Confusion over NLH, SSE launch, etc.

Apologies again for cross-posting.

Well I'm afraid there are still many questions unanswered.  
The most important is the pragmatic issue of which page we 
trainers present to our trainees.  If NeLH is not going to be 
fully integrated into NLH until March 2006 (or is that a typo 
and should be 2005? - I hope so), are we going to have to 
teach both pages to trainees until then?  That will be very 
confusing for them.  If the NLH page is incomplete, we will 
still need to refer to NeLH for the missing links.  However, 
NeLH Search is so flaky (constantly timing out) that it has 
become embarrassing to try to teach it, so we will need to 
teach the SSE.

Then there is the tabular presentation of results.  The SSE 
uses the new tab format of All Results, Guidance, Evidence, 
Clinical Databases, etc.  The Specialist Libraries, 
Guidelines Finder and Protocols/Care Pathways pages all use 
the old tab format of Guidance/Pathways, Evidence, Reference, 
etc.  Are these pages going to be using the SSE Search and 
therefore the new tabs?  When will this happen?

These questions have direct bearing on user training and 
preparation of handouts.

Geoff Fleet
Outreach Librarian

---- Original message ----
>Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:35:39 GMT
>From: "Gibbens Scott (Trent Strategic Health Authority)" 
<[log in to unmask]>  
>Subject: Re: Confusion over NLH, SSE launch, etc.  
>To: Fleet Geoff (BUCKINGHAMSHIRE SHARED SERVICES) 
<[log in to unmask]>, [log in to unmask], LIS-
[log in to unmask]
>
>Dear All
>
>It is intended that NeLH will be integrated into the NLH 
>fully by March 2006. The exact date when NeLH hits are 
>redirected to NLH will depend on the usage of both the NeLH 
>and NLH sites and the development that takes place of NLH. 
>Hopefully this will give everyone plenty of time to get used 
>to the new site.
>
>The NLH site will be developed over the coming year with 
>localisation, personalisation, directories and the single 
>search. The NeLH will certainly be kept up to date, but may 
>not include all the enhancements the new NLH site will offer.
>
>Phase 1 of the single search is due to be launched on 
>January 10th. We will be carrying out a usability study over 
>the coming weeks to help determine improvements - as well as 
>the feedback from librarians - that will help determine what 
>is required for Phase 2.
>
>Regards
>
>Scott Gibbens
>NCC Project Manager
>NLH Programme Manager
>
>
>---- Original message ----
>>Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 14:36:38 GMT
>>From: "Fleet Geoff (BUCKINGHAMSHIRE SHARED SERVICES)" 
><[log in to unmask]>  
>>Subject: Confusion over NLH, SSE launch, etc.  
>>To: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask]
>>
>>Apologies for cross posting (although I'm not cross, just 
>>slightly irritated).
>>
>>With the impending launch of the single search environment 
>on 
>>Jan 10th, am I the only one who is confused about what this 
>>means?  Does it mean that the NLH page will now 
>be "official" 
>>and that the NeLH page should no longer be promoted?  If 
>not, 
>>when will this be, and will this be announced on both 
>pages?  
>>How long is the grace period before NeLH will be shut down 
>>and redirected to NLH?  Have I missed something, or have 
>>there been no communications about any of this (again)?
>>
>>If the NLH page is to be official from Jan 10th, there are 
>>some glaring omissions on both the public page 
>>(http://www.library.nhs.uk/) and the test page 
>>(http://search.library.nhs.uk/).  These pages are 
>>slightly different, but both omit OMNI, Prodigy, BNF, 
>Medical 
>>Dictionaries Search, and links to many other sites such as 
>>MIDIRS, NSF Zones, Healthcare Commission, etc.  In 
addition, 
>>several Specialist Libraries are missing.  I heard that the 
>>ones which can't be searched by the SSE were omitted, but 
>>that doesn't make sense to me; surely you should still be 
>>able to link to them whether they can be searched or not.  
>>
>>Finally, my understanding was that the "electronic" in NeLH 
>>was being phased out in favour of the term NLH (although I 
>>realise that NLH is a broader concept than NeLH).  However, 
>>one of the "databases" searched by the SSE is NeLH.
>>
>>Geoff Fleet
>>Outreach Librarian
>>
>>Bucks Shared Services, Verney House, Gatehouse Road, 
>Aylesbury, HP19 8ET
>>Tel: 01296 310106
>>[log in to unmask]
>>

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