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Subject:

Re: Question about site_globus_tcp_range

From:

"Maarten Litmaath, CERN" <[log in to unmask]>

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LHC Computer Grid - Rollout <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 11 Feb 2005 01:29:38 +0100

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On Mon, 7 Feb 2005, Maarten Litmaath wrote:

> Jeroen Craens wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > We are currently setting up a testbed grid (still LCG 2.2, we might
> > upgrade next month) behind a nat router, consisting out of a ce and some
> > wn's (and a lcfg).
> > To make sure a rb can transfer the jobs to our ce, we need to forward
> > the SITE_GLOBUS_TCP_RANGE which normally is 20000-25000.
> > Because the router can't handle forwarding of a range of ports, we are
> > wondering if we could change the default range parameter in site-cfg.h
> > to a range 20000-20100 without losing functionalities: the nodes of the
> > site we will submit our jobs on (to our ce) will have the 20000-25000
> > range but our site will then have the 20000-20100 range.
> > Has anyone tried this before? Could we change the default value to the
> > one proposed without experiencing problems?
>
> You might see a problem occasionally.  See below.
>
> > By the way: how does the ce choose to which port the rb can send its
> > data: (assuming none of these ports have been taken) randomly, or 20000
> > for the first transfer, 20001 for the next one,...?
>
> There seems to be a misconception here.  What happens is this:

WARNING: the scenario I gave before is INCOMPLETE!!!

Below I have inserted the missing pieces:

> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 1. The RB contacts the CE on port 2119 and indicates on which port the RB
>     should be called back by the globus-job-manager.  That port is the first
>     free port in the port range on the RB.  The range usually is 20000-25000,
>     so the first free port *usually* is 20000 + O(10).

      In fact there are 2 ports on which the RB is called back
      (say 20000 and 20001).

  1a. The RB contacts globus-job-manager on various ports in the CE port range!
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> 2. The CE calls the RB back on that port.

     It calls the RB back a few times on both of the ports from step 1.

> 3. The job wrapper gets submitted to the batch system and globus-job-manager
>     is told to exit.
>
> 4. The job wrapper eventually starts on the WN and copies the input sandbox
>     from the RB using globus-url-copy.  The data port on the RB will again be
>     in the port range of the RB.
>
> 5. The user part of the job runs.  It may do a globus-url-copy to/from an SE,
>     using a data port in the port range of that SE.
>
> 6. The job wrapper copies the output sandbox (and the "Maradona" file) back
>     to the RB and exits.
>
> 7. The grid_monitor running on the CE informs the RB that the job has exited.
>     The RB contacts the CE again on port 2119 to restart globus-job-manager,
>     which then cleans things up and sends back the stderr and stdout of the
>     job wrapper (stdout contains the exit status of the user part).
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> So, your NAT router must allow outbound connections from the CE and WNs to
> ports 20000+ of service nodes outside the local domain (RBs, SEs).

It also must allow inbound connections to the CE on the CE port range.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Mea maxima culpa...  :-(

> If the upper bound is 20100, you may occasionally see a problem with a job
> submission callback, input or output sandbox transfer when the RB is busy,
> or in the user part of the job with a globus-url-copy to/from a very busy SE.

It is still correct that a port range of 20000-20500 is largely sufficient.

To show what is going on between the RB and the CE, I have captured all calls
to bind(), connect(), listen() and accept() made by the "gahp_server" process
on the RB for a single job submission to a CE, and the subsequent cleanup:

------------------------------------------------------------
   bind( 6, {AF_INET, 20000,  0)},  16 ) =  0
 listen( 6,                        128 ) =  0
   bind( 7, {AF_INET, 20001,  0)},  16 ) =  0
 listen( 7,                        128 ) =  0
   bind( 8, {AF_INET, 20002,  0)},  16 ) =  0
connect( 8, {AF_INET,  2119, CE)},  16 ) = -1 EINPROGRESS
   bind( 8, {AF_INET, 20003,  0)},  16 ) =  0
connect( 8, {AF_INET,  2119, CE)},  16 ) = -1 EINPROGRESS
   bind( 9, {AF_INET, 20005,  0)},  16 ) =  0
connect( 9, {AF_INET,  2119, CE)},  16 ) = -1 EINPROGRESS
   bind( 8, {AF_INET, 20007,  0)},  16 ) =  0
connect( 8, {AF_INET, 20007, CE)},  16 ) = -1 EINPROGRESS
 accept( 6, {AF_INET, 20009, CE)}, [16]) = 10
 accept( 6, {AF_INET, 20010, CE)}, [16]) =  8
   bind(10, {AF_INET, 20007,  0)},  16 ) =  0
connect(10, {AF_INET, 20007, CE)},  16 ) = -1 EINPROGRESS
 accept( 6, {AF_INET, 20011, CE)}, [16]) =  8
 accept( 7, {AF_INET, 20012, CE)}, [16]) =  8
 accept( 7, {AF_INET, 20013, CE)}, [16]) =  9
 accept( 7, {AF_INET, 20014, CE)}, [16]) =  9
 accept( 7, {AF_INET, 20007, CE)}, [16]) =  9
 accept( 7, {AF_INET, 20007, CE)}, [16]) =  9
 accept( 7, {AF_INET, 20007, CE)}, [16]) =  9
 accept( 7, {AF_INET, 20000, CE)}, [16]) =  9
 accept( 7, {AF_INET, 20000, CE)}, [16]) =  9
 accept( 7, {AF_INET, 20000, CE)}, [16]) =  9
 accept( 7, {AF_INET, 20000, CE)}, [16]) =  9
 accept( 7, {AF_INET, 20000, CE)}, [16]) =  9
   bind( 9, {AF_INET, 20002,  0)},  16 ) =  0
connect( 9, {AF_INET,  2119, CE)},  16 ) = -1 EINPROGRESS
   bind( 9, {AF_INET, 20003,  0)},  16 ) =  0
connect( 9, {AF_INET, 20010, CE)},  16 ) = -1 EINPROGRESS
 accept( 6, {AF_INET, 20013, CE)}, [16]) =  9
 accept( 7, {AF_INET, 20014, CE)}, [16]) =  9
 accept( 7, {AF_INET, 20015, CE)}, [16]) =  9
 accept( 6, {AF_INET, 20016, CE)}, [16]) =  9
   bind( 9, {AF_INET, 20007,  0)},  16 ) =  0
connect( 9, {AF_INET, 20010, CE)},  16 ) = -1 EINPROGRESS
   bind( 9, {AF_INET, 20007,  0)},  16 ) =  0
connect( 9, {AF_INET, 20010, CE)},  16 ) = -1 EINPROGRESS
------------------------------------------------------------

(Whenever a file descriptor is reused, it was first closed.)

The calls to the gatekeeper (2119) are not only to submit and cleanup
the user job, but also for the grid_monitor job, that runs on the CE
to monitor the user's real jobs.

If the RB is not allowed to connect to the CE in the CE port range,
one typically gets the following error for jobs submitted via the RB:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Got a job held event, reason: Globus error 79: connecting to the job
manager failed.  Possible reasons: job terminated, invalid job contact,
network problems, ...
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

(Debugging such a problem I discovered my earlier mistake.)

A direct globus-job-run will work, however, because it does not use
the two-phase commit feature of GRAM, that is used by the RB.

Cheers,
        Maarten

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