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Subject:

Re: Atlas DC2.5

From:

Steve Traylen <[log in to unmask]>

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LHC Computer Grid - Rollout <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 7 Oct 2005 10:34:18 +0100

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On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 09:39:17PM -0700 or thereabouts, Rod Walker wrote:
> Hi,
> In preparation for upcoming production I`m exercising the system at full 
> scale. This time around there is a lot more unofficial production 
> activity, and I`m wondering how Atlas can enforce the intra-VO fair-share. 
> For example, we might want 90% of the Atlas resources to be for official 
> production. In this case that means the user mapped from 
> /C=CA/O=Grid/OU=westgrid.ca/CN=Rodney Walker
> should get 90% of the Atlas share.
> 
> Currently there is no way to express Atlas policy and no way to enforce 
> it, and I`m looking for a short term solution. My feeling is that this can 
> only be enforced at the site level, e.g. in the Atlas group part of 
> the Maui config file.
> The long promised voms will be able to say this is a production user, but 
> what next? The 'what next' will be the same whether we have voms or you 
> just believe me that Rodney Walker is the only production user(for this 
> test).
> 
> So I`m thinking looking up the user mappings and adjusting the fair-share 
> of atlasXXX - periodically and perhaps looking up atlas policy on some web 
> page. The mechanism is not so tough, but I think we`ll need it for 
> upcoming productions - it`s probably sufficient if a few big sites do 
> something so I`m not proposing on-the-fly middleware development for all. 
> Ideas?
> 
> Right now I`ve 1200 running with 1800 queued, where the number queued per 
> site is vaguely proportional to the number of cpus. So if you`re site has 
> Atlas 10.0.1, LCG2.6.0, ram>=600MB and no jobs then let me know. FZK has only 
> 1 running job and 80 queued which looks fishy.

If you have a web page along the lines of.

[priorities]
production=40
analysis=30
default=20

[production]
/C=CA/O=Grid/OU=westgrid.ca/CN=Rodney Walker

[analysis]
/O=Grid/O=NorduGrid/OU=uio.no/CN=Aleksandr Konstantinov
/O=dutchgrid/O=users/O=nikhef/CN=Gustavo Ordonez

then I expect we can do something in a maui world anyway.

You can set a user priority on the fly with out changing maui.cfg
or restarting the service.

# changeparam USERCFG[atlas001] FSTARGET=40

A few things to think about in the implementation include:

  + The config file would have to be an official one from atlas.
  + They would be relative priorities. i.e. it makes a huge
    difference to [production] if the [default] group contains 1 
    or 100 active users. Each would get 20 to your 40.
  + With multiple VO priority files they would have normalised some
    how to stop atlas setting priority to 10000000 and 20000000.
  + Sites need to be sure that they weight their group/user priorities
    so that group priority is the dominant one in order to provide
    their overall VO allocations.
  + You will still have problems if the atlas queue is completly full
    of low priority jobs compared to yours since your jobs won't come
    here at all.
  + At a later date with VOMS group the logic could be the same.

  + I have no idea what is feasible on LSF and it at least should be 
    considered.

This would obviously run as a cron to change the priorties of individual
users at some suitable interval.

Comments.















> 
> Cheers,
> Rod.
> 
> -- 
> Rod Walker +1 6042913051

-- 
Steve Traylen
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http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/

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