Markus, it would be good to hear from Jamie and Ian on the decision. The
agreement of Tier1s has been with distinct reservations as we still
don't know what the VOs will do with these boxes. Alice have given some
information - lists of software but not details of how they will be used
- and even if we are happy with what runs at first, there seems no
control over what happens subsequently. So not to be obstructive we have
agreed but are keeping a close watch and will take action if we see
problems.
RAL have set up a VObox for Alice although we still have a firewall
problem. The other UK sites will wait and see how we get on. For the
moment we are happy to talk about HOW but I am sure we won't be the only
site who considers WHETHER if VOs are felt to be abusing the privilege.
I am not sure I agree with you on the VO box being the more secure way
of working. By having the VO box installed you have persuaded sites to
put aside their security concerns. If the VOs had to justify what they
were doing sites would feel happier that they weren't installing some
trojan that will cause problems with their site security people.
I don't mean that VOs should negotiate with each site but I would like
to think that someone somewhere knew what was being installed and had at
least thought about possible problems and could reassure the rest of us.
I don't really mind who this is. It could be you or some other person
who we all respect and who is independent of the experiments.
John
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LHC Computer Grid - Rollout
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Markus Schulz
> Sent: 06 September 2005 12:33
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [LCG-ROLLOUT] LCG-2_7_0 sooner or later ....
>
> Hi Alessandra,
> yes, there is additional documentation made available by Simone
> Campana in wiki. http://goc.grid.sinica.edu.tw/gocwiki/VOBOX_HowTo
> In addition the release note contained quite some material.
>
> We can discuss the box there, however for the Tier-1 centers
> the fact
> that there are VO-BOXES has been already decided and agreed by the
> site managers of the T1s. Jamie and Ian can give you more
> details on
> the state of this decision.
>
> If we discuss this at the workshop we must ensure that we don't try
> to revert this decision. The discussion has to be focused on the
> "how" and not on the "wether".
>
>
> markus
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