Hi,
On rereading this thread I am now utterly confused and apologize for
mouthing off yesterday. However I hope someone can dispel my confusion.
Laurence said somewhere (can't find the mail) that YAIM was set up this
way but it was not required to run a site this way, it was just the
default in YAIM.
However there was also discussion about the lcg-pbs-dynamic info
provider and how in this beast, the assumption was made queue name = vo
name.
This latter thing was what I was responding to; it is a piece of
middleware that apparently does not work properly unless one configures
their site as queue name = vo name. This is an extremely bad situation.
Having YAIM configure it this way by default is not desirable, but not
awful. One can circumvent the problem by using some other mechanism to
install your site, problem solved.
Can someone clarify what we are actually discussing here?
J "count to ten slowly before hitting 'enter' mr. Templon, gooood,
gooood" T
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LHC Computer Grid - Rollout
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jeff Templon
> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 3:14 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [LCG-ROLLOUT] YAIM: non-default queue setup
>
>
> Yo,
>
> On Tue, 2005-01-18 at 14:25, Laurence wrote:
>
> > The reason why this assumption has been made is due to a problem in
> > the Glue Schema that we are attempting to fix. This is the
> only way
> > that we can get accounting to work correctly. We need to know the
> > number of jobs running and waiting per VO.
>
> Bad bad bad. I suggest this be brought up at the next LCG
> workshop, and possibly at the GDB as well.
>
> I have sympathy for the problem, but we should not fix
> problems in the middleware by making the lives of 100+ people
> (the sysadmins) difficult. And especially not without
> agreeing with these people beforehand. CERN has a totally
> different set of constraints than most sites.
>
> Absolutely unacceptable: "configure your site like CERN does,
> or else the software will not work". Next we will be told
> "install CERN Scientific Linux or else the software will not
> work". What's next, "send us your computers and we will
> install them and run them here??"
>
> This is why the authors of EGEE JRA1 part of the proposal
> suggested to NOT have the integration team at CERN. That is
> back when we thought that JRA1 would be doing this, not LCG ;-)
> JT
>
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