Hi David,
I appreciate that you didn't permanently delete the files as
you wrote on your mail.
Cheers,
Julio.
Dr D J Colling wrote:
> HI Julio,
>
> Yes, I agree it was somewhat unkind at such late notice and I
> apologise. I
> should have explained properly the first time that we were going to
> reconfigure things and so wanted to clear that space (see also my
> comments on this in my reply to Oxana).In fact we migrated the data
> to a new location and when our site comes back up later today the data
> should all be there.
>
> All the best and sorry for the un-necessary scare,
> david
>
> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005, Julio Lozano Bahilo wrote:
>
>> Hello David,
>> first of all I have to say that I coudn't read your last message.
>> We had been working hard to understand the implications of dele-
>> ting the files on your site. The ATLAS production system hasn't
>> been as reliable as we wanted and we've had problems concerning
>> the copy and registration of output files.
>> We managed, anyway, to clean by about 2/3 the disk space on your
>> machine at some point and decided that we had to look carefully
>> into the rest of the files to see which should be replicated and
>> how it should be done to keep the consistency with the catalogue
>> system and our production database. We thought that it was more
>> than sufficient since we didn't foresee that it was so urgent for
>> you to clean TOTALLY your disk space.
>> Sending an ultimatum at the last minute on a friday evening, when
>> you still had more than 200 GB free out of your 340 GB total, is
>> not a very kind move with respect to the ATLAS collaboration, I
>> have to say. If some sites are not capable of providing a good
>> quality of service ( for whatever reasons ) they should be exclu-
>> ded from the list of LCG production sites.
>> Cheers,
>> Julio.
>>
>> Dr D J Colling wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Julio (or any other appropriate atlas user)
>>>
>>> We Still have:
>>>
>>> 119G /stage/lcg2-data/atlas/datafiles
>>> 591M /stage/lcg2-data/atlas/generated
>>> 110M /stage/lcg2-data/atlas/logfiles
>>>
>>> on gw38.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk. I suspect that this is from jobs that were
>>> still
>>> finishing and already running when we shut the queue. There is
>>> currently
>>> one job still running (all the others have finished ... although I did
>>> kill about 5 that had clearly stalled).
>>>
>>> Please could you remove this data if you want to keep it. Any not
>>> removed
>>> by 12-noon tomorrow is likely to be removed the hard way...
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> david
>>>
>>> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Dr D J Colling wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Julio,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for this.
>>>>
>>>> The storage element is gw38.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk and the atlas area is
>>>> /stage/lcg2-data/atlas
>>>>
>>>> so if you do something like:
>>>>
>>>> edg-gridftp-ls gsiftp://gw38.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk/stage/lcg2-data/atlas
>>>>
>>>> you see:
>>>>
>>>> generated
>>>> datafiles
>>>> logfiles
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> which to me looks like some sort of standard production set up and so
>>>> you
>>>> are probably better placed to know which files need to be copied where
>>>> than I am. What I can tell you is that if I log on to the SE directly
>>>> and
>>>> do a du -hs on the directory I get
>>>>
>>>> 267G /stage/lcg2-data/atlas/datafiles
>>>> 13G /stage/lcg2-data/atlas/generated
>>>> 98M /stage/lcg2-data/atlas/logfiles
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The rest of the disk is taken up by the experiment software
>>>> directories.
>>>> When you have cleared the data areas we will split these on to
>>>> seperate
>>>> disks and so increase the space available (slightly) but also making
>>>> sure
>>>> that data produced by running jobs cannot block code installation etc.
>>>>
>>>> All the best,
>>>> david
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Julio Lozano Bahilo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello David,
>>>>> please, tell me which are the files to be transfered .. I'm going
>>>>> to try to copy those files to a different storage place.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Julio Lozano.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr D J Colling wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> However still no reply from an Atlas person. I really don't want to
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> this but if there is no movement of this data tomorrow morning we
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> going to have to delete these files with all the problems that this
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> cause.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>> david
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Burke, S (Stephen) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LHC Computer Grid - Rollout
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dr D J
>>>>>>>> Colling
>>>>>>>> said:
>>>>>>>> mail to [log in to unmask] bounced (probably because I am
>>>>>>>> member of CMS)> proving it not to be a very reliable way of
>>>>>>>> communicating
>>>>>>>> with the Atlas community.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually I forwarded it to atlas-lcg anyway, but I would rather
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> have the
>>>>>>> system relying on that :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stephen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
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