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Subject:

Re: error in LCG 2.6.0 standard ERT calculation??

From:

Jeff Templon <[log in to unmask]>

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LHC Computer Grid - Rollout <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:26:49 +0100

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Hey

have you taken a look at the new code to be released in 2.7.0??
please do, you can get a head start on writing the backend plugin.  the 
ERT calc is now done by a generic (honest) framework that is batch 
system independent.  I hope it's a good one, three years of work have 
gone into it.

The doc on what the backend plugin needs to do is included as attachment.

					JT

David McBride wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 12:56 +0100, Jeff Templon wrote:
> 
> 
>>On the other hand, if there are no waiting jobs, then as long as there 
>>is even one free CPU (the second kind, not the first kind ;-) then ERT 
>>should be zero, regardless of how many jobs there are running.
> 
> 
> Yes.  This is something that I'd implemented in my SGE adaptor, too.
> 
> (I'd stick a reference to the code here, but the SGE adaptor does a
> number of interesting backflips that I suspect would just be confusing.
> For example, none of the queues that it is reporting on actually
> physically exist..)
> 
> Cheers,
> David



The output of the LRMS-specific part needs to contain a snapshot of the state of the LRMS. This state should be as faithful as possible; 'massaging' of the state should be left to higher-level programs such as the ERT system (which handles mapping of unix group names to VO names). Placing the massaging at a higher level and keeping the LRMS-specific part pristine has two main values: 1) the massaging is uniform across LRMS types, so one can at least    hope that there won't be some LRMS bias in the estimates 2) if the LRMS tool reports the real information, it might well be    useful for some purpose besides predicting ERTs. ========================================================== The required format of this file is described below. EXAMPLE FILE nactive 240 nfree 191 now 1119073982 schedCycle 120 {'queue': 'atlas', 'start': 1119073982.0, 'state': 'running', 'group': 'atlsgm', 'user': 'atlsm003', 'maxwalltime': 345600.0, 'qtime': 1119073781.0, 'jobid': '612049.tbn20.nikhef.nl'} {'queue': 'qlong', 'start': 1119060911.0, 'state': 'running', 'group': 'atlsgm', 'user': 'atlsm003', 'maxwalltime': 259200.0, 'qtime': 1119060774.0, 'jobid': '612043.tbn20.nikhef.nl'} {'queue': 'atlas', 'start': 1119060910.0, 'state': 'running', 'group': 'atlsgm', 'user': 'atlsm003', 'maxwalltime': 345600.0, 'qtime': 1119060759.0, 'jobid': '612039.tbn20.nikhef.nl'} {'queue': 'qlong', 'start': 1119136200.0, 'state': 'running', 'group': 'atlsgm', 'user': 'atlsm003', 'maxwalltime': 259200.0, 'qtime': 1119135972.0, 'jobid': '612176.tbn20.nikhef.nl'} {'queue': 'dzero', 'start': 1119268211.0, 'state': 'running', 'group': 'dzero', 'user': 'dzero004', 'maxwalltime': 345600.0, 'qtime': 1119268047.0, 'jobid': '612241.tbn20.nikhef.nl'} =========================== The last structure between "{}" characters is repeated one line for each job currently either executing or waiting in the queue. Here are some explanations for the semantics of the values: nactive is the number of job slots that are actually capable of running jobs at the snapshot time (let's call the snapshot time t0 for brevity). by 'actually capable of running jobs' i mean that at t0, what is the maximum number of jobs that could be running on the system. so nactive counts all jobs slots, empty or occupied, but does not count the job slots on CPUs that are 'down' or 'offline'. So it's not the theoretical maximum number of job slots in your farm (unless ALL your WNs are working), it's the number that are 'up'. nfree is the number of these active job slots that at t0 do not have an assigned job. they can potentially accept a new job at t0 (or at least at the start of the next scheduling cycle). Note these numbers don't have anything to do with VOs (unless each node happens to be exclusively assigned to a single VO). They are aggregates of all job slots that are being controlled by a single LRMS. 'now' is a timestamp in seconds of when the queue was inspected. The only constraint here is that 'now' has to be in the same units, and have the same zero reference, as do all the times in the per-job lines (like 'qtime' or 'start'). In the PBS version provided, 'now' is in local time seconds, meaning seconds since midnight Jan 1st 1970 local time. Again as long as the units are seconds and all times have the same reference point, the actual reference point does not matter. 'schedCycle' is the cycle time of your batch scheduler; how often does it start a new scheduling pass? As of this writing at NIKHEF it is 120 seconds, meaning a new scheduling attempt is started every 120 seconds. Each line thereafter reports the info for a single job. {'queue': 'qlong', 'start': 1119060911.0, 'state': 'running', \  'group': 'atlsgm', 'user': 'atlsm003', 'maxwalltime': 259200.0, \  'qtime': 1119060774.0, 'jobid': '612043.tbn20.nikhef.nl'} This has a structure { 'key1' : 'attr1', 'key2' : 'attr2' } and is written in this particular format because it is the string representation of a python 'dictionary' (same as perl 'hash'), making the input parsing for the other part very easy. The order of the various keys is irrelevant, you could write {'key2' : 'attr2', 'key1' : 'attr1' } if you wanted. Not all the fields are required but they should be consistent. All jobs should have a 'qtime' since they must have entered the queue at some point. If a job is in state 'running' it better have a 'start' time; if it is 'queued' then 'start' should be absent. Here is a bit of explanation of the various fields: In the example above, the local PBS jobid is 612043.tbn20.nikhef.nl ; this just has to be a unique string (no two jobs should have the same string). qtime is the timestamp when it entered the queue, with the same ref point as 'now'. now - qtime will tell you how long it has been since the job entered the queue (submitted). maxwalltime is the maximum amount of real time the execution of a job in this queue may take in seconds). 'user' and 'group' are the pool account ids under which the job runs. For the current implementation we assume that group name == VO name. 'state' can be either 'queued', 'running', 'pending', or 'done'. 'pending' means it is in the queue but has been placed on 'hold'. 'start' is the time stamp for when the job actually started to execute. Again needs to be measured in the same coords as 'now'. Finally 'queue' gives the name of the queue in which this job is running (like 'qlong').

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