Hi Xavier,
Although there was no real need I do appreciate your apology.....
Jac


>From: Xavier Pick <[log in to unmask]>
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>Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:36:40 +0100
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>Thanks for your response Jac
>
>I think I must have got it wrong then. I don't think I really understand 
>what drawing research means then. I apologise. Good luck
>
>Xavier
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>On Wednesday, September 14, 2005, at 05:07 PM, Jac Saorsa wrote:
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>>Hi Xavier,
>>I do usually think about what I say and there was really no intention to 
>>cause offence - I was not 'going on the attack' at all, and I was not 
>>trying to be negative, so there is no need to be in any way defensive. I 
>>simply would like to say that there should be some kind of agreement 
>>perhaps as to what constitites research in creative activity and what does 
>>not. The distinction does not devalue either, however, if we do not 
>>support a concept of research, as opposed to artistry in general, how can 
>>the growing interest in drawing research that is exemplified by the 
>>candidates for masters and phd courses in drawing across the country be 
>>supported in turn?
>>By the way - you are mistaken to think that I have moved to become a 
>>visual artist - I always have been and always will be an artist. If 
>>anything, it is being a truly comitted artist that has pushed me to think 
>>about and explore my creativity more deeply, and doing a phd - although 
>>considered by some to be an academic or 'word-based' project - was part of 
>>that process.
>>I am glad you liked my site - yours too is well done.
>>Best wishes,
>>Jac
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: Xavier Pick <[log in to unmask]>
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>>>Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:01:54 +0100
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>>>Jac
>>>
>>>That sort of comment seriously undermines any positivity and creative 
>>>dialogue. Please think before you send out negative messages to others. 
>>>The "Original Point" was from your perspective, but other people have 
>>>different perspectives. I am an artist, I love drawing, I want to promote 
>>>drawing in different ways. It gather that you come from an intellectual 
>>>and word based background then have moved to become a visual artist, By 
>>>going on the attack, telling people what they should not be, you are 
>>>helping to define what you want to be. This is not the creative process, 
>>>Creativity starts with opening up to all possibilties. Travelling and 
>>>journeying is the start to new ideas. What is drawing research anyway- it 
>>>strikes me as this over-intellectualising  takes the fun out of it.
>>>
>>>By the way, your website is very good.
>>>
>>>
>>>Yours
>>>
>>>Xavier
>>>
>>>Hello All,
>>>With regard to the current thread on drawing research issues I am 
>>>wondering if the participants have missed the original point. I have 
>>>every repect for artists going on their own 'journeys' and finding the 
>>>value of sketching but this doesn't seem to have much direct relevance to 
>>>actual 'research' - drawing or otherwise.
>>>Best wishes,
>>>Jac Saorsa
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