Hi
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From: "Rik Roots" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: The Poet's Lathe
>True. But sometimes people can say what they really feel about a poem
anonymously when otherwise they would stay silent or choose to conform to
the
group ethos.
Not in my experience unless the group or the individual is on a destructive
line somewhere in the region of _that's bad_ etc; and while we may all think
such things I very much doubt that they are productive as things said.
I suspect, no more than that, that this proposal, in this aspect, is very
far from new; but is of that school of thought which believes that negative
crit is somehow really good for the poet & it rarely is. To me it taps into
a wider tradition of suffering. Or perhaps you prefer no pain no gain
>I prefer to think of it as market testing a product.
Well now I begin to see your proposal as pernicious. It certainly confirms
my connection with educational inset
>udiences are anonymous,
too.
No, they're not. It's not that simple
> as to the suppression of community, I think youre bonkers
>
Online poetry workshop communities are fickle things. After bumbling around
the online poetry workshop scene for the past half dozen years I decided
that
the way workshops are conducted online were all a bit "samey". So I decided
to code up a different approach. Not a better approach, just different, in
the hope that it might trigger a bit more diversity. Minimising the peer
pressure is just one of the different approaches encoded within the website.
I stand by my previous comments
> I think I'll stay in the poets' plantation
>
>I keep meaning to pop along to the Writers Forum Workshop. I've got a new
year's resolution to force myself out to more real life poetry happenings in
London this year.
You're welcome though there's a strong likelihood we'll ask you to leave if
you try this stuff there
I didn't actually mean WF, though that's a reasonable deduction. I was just
thinking of trees growing, not necessarily completely freely and someone
else, you in this case, killing them by shaping them in a lathe. What comes
out is not trees, though it is wood.
If you want to make creative writing, good luck
> I'm sorry; buit your experiment page reminds me of educational documents -
> often written as MEd projects - I used to suffer in inservice training
>
Well, it is an outline of the experiment ...
I didn't mean that; I meant the style and the appearance of experiment, and
it often did students a lot of harm if it was tried
all best
L
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