Hi Mary
I have recently received a video and information sheet on "changing
facilities in loos for people with complex disabilities" from pamis who are
"concerned with the needs of people with profound and multiple learning
disabilities and working in partnership with their families to improve
facilities and opportunities." More information from pamis tel 01382 345
154, fax 01382 227 464, e-mail [log in to unmask] web
www.dundee.ac.uk/pamis/
Regards
Marcus
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From: Accessibuilt list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Gwynne, Mary
Sent: 07 January 2005 09:15
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Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] Penninsular wc's
It has been suggested to our Council that the basic design for an accessible
toilet should include an adult changing bed. Currently we have people that
cannot shop or use other facilities in the area because of the lack of
changing beds. Some people 'toilet' in their vehicle. If they did not do
this they would be unable to leave their home. Does anyone have a good
design of a fully accessible toilet that includes an adult changing bed?
What are other peoples views on this? Regards Mary Gwynne Policy Development
Officer(Access)
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> From: Julienne Hanson[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
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> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 04:32
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> Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] Penninsular wc's
>
> Dear Orla, Hi! I'm a University Professor at UCL and the Principal
> Investigator on an EPSRC funded project to look at the inclusive
> design of public (away from home) toilets in city centres. We are 18
> months into the project. We are working with many, many different user
> groups to find out what they each needs from an 'accessible toilet'.
> People's requirements vary hugely, so we are producing 'personas' to
> tell a narrative of what is needed by each user group to make a toilet
> accessible for them and also the personas explain why the loo needs to
> be designed that way. Most people don't know what actually goes on
> 'behind the toilet door', other than their own toileting practices, so
> they can't really understand or be expected to understand how the
> various bits of kit are used by real human beings. Part of our project
> is to explain all of this so that ddesigners and providers can
> appreciate users' perspectives.
>
>
> Many of our partner organisations are self-help groups for people who
> have a physical, sensory or cognitive impairments, but we have drawn
> our contributors inclusively so parents with babies, children, older
> people, ethnic minorities, care workers and many other groups are
> included. My research fellow, Jo-Anne Bichard ([log in to unmask])
> will be able to fill you in on what she is doing, but please not this
> week or next, as we have some Japanese visitors coming for a week-long
> study tour of good practice in the design of UK toilets at the
> weekend, and she is working flat out to make that run smoothly, which
> is why I'm replying. We have published quite extenisvely, but please
> contact Jo-Anne for a list of references.
>
>
> We do have the evidence to support the fact that the peninsular unit
> is only suitable for people who have a carer or carers to assist. The
> island arrangement does not give sufficient support for many
> unassisted users to manage, without feeling unsteady or actually
> falling off the loo. It is not possible to reach the wash basin while
> seated on the loo either, which a fair number of users need to be able
> to do to clean themselves. And, as Vin (who replied ahead of me) has
> suggested, the corner arrangement should mean that everything is
> reachable from the loo for a wheelchair user, provided the fittings
> are correctly positioned, which most times they are not.
>
>
> There is no optimum arrangement. About this I am now clear. Please
> some users and others will find themselves excluded. For the
> 'smallest room' its a fiendishly difficult design problem. (I'm an
> architect by profession, by the way). If you have only room for one
> solution, I recommend that you use the universal WC compartment in the
> Centre for Accessible Environment's Good Loo Design Guide, 2004
> edition, p 27. Its the nearest thing to optimal, though it still won't
> suit everyone. We may come up with something better by the end of the
> project, but we've another 18 months to run, so 'watch this space'. I
> hope this helps. Best Regards, Julienne
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