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Thanks to all for their responses on this topic.
It would seem prudent to source and publicise accessible vehicle models as some
councils are on their way to expanding numbers of accessible taxis and want to
ensure these are models that have the widest application of accessibility for
the widest range range of users.
Dorothy
Bracewell, Robert (2/11/05 12:08 PM):
>Dear All,
>
>I'm really pleased that this has reared its head again. I've been
>banging my head against hard things for a couple of years now. It was
>announced here that the taxi accessibility regulations were going to be
>piloted in certain areas, this area (Lancaster) was chosen as part of
>the pilot scheme. Hurrah I thought, however, it transpired that these
>regulations would be phased in over a period of 10 years starting in
>2010!!
>
>Rob
>
>_______________________________________________
>Rob Bracewell BA (Hons)
>Access Officer,
>Forward Planning Team,
>Lancaster City Council,
>Palatine Hall,
>Dalton Square,
>Lancaster,
>LA1 1PW
>Tel. & Minicom. 01524 582372 (please use announcer)
>Mob. 07792439623
>Fax. 01524 582322
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Accessibuilt list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
>Of Thomas, Carol
>Sent: 11 February 2005 11:52
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] Accessible Taxis
>
>
>Hi all
>The Department for Transport has been looking at the issue of
>'accessible' taxis in preparation for proposals for the Taxi
>Accessibility Regulations under Part 5 of the DDA. The long awaited
>consultation on this should be out in 2005 ....
>
>You may also find useful the DPTAC (Disabled Persons Transport Advisory
>Committee) publication Making Private Hire Services Accessible to
>Disabled People, A Good Practice Guide - available on the DPTAC website
>- on the web site click on taxis
>
>regards,
>Carol
>
>Carol Thomas
>JMU Access Partnership
>
>________________________________
>
>From: Accessibuilt list on behalf of Marcus Ormerod
>Sent: Fri 11/02/2005 08:37
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] Accessible Taxis
>
>
>Hi Dorothy and Lynn
>
>I would tend to agree that it is in the terminology used. We make things
>"accessible" for a particular person or impairment and this tends to be
>a retrofit situation to an existing design. In other words "now we have
>designed the vehicle how do we change it to make it accessible for
>wheelchair users?" An alternative approach is "inclusive design" and the
>starting point should be "ok so we want a vehicle that is as inclusive
>as possible what are the diversity issues that we need to address in the
>design of the vehicle". The hard bit is trying to overcome conflicts in
>the design between the requirements of differing impairments and also
>the practicalities of the object being designed. However, there are less
>chances for going back to the drawing board to start from scratch and
>more chances to alter what already exists, but this does perpetuate
>accessible solutions rather than inclusive designs.
>
>Regards
>Marcus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Accessibuilt list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>Behalf Of Lynn Jeffries
> Sent: 10 February 2005 16:10
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] Accessible Taxis
>
>
> Hi Dorothy,
>
> I can't answer your question but I'd like to ask the group a
>related question on what exactly we mean by 'accessible taxi's'.
>
> The reason I ask is that the major taxi firm where I live have a
>plan to make all their cabs 'accessible'. By this they mean 'black
>cabs'. I am very aware that for a number of disabled people with
>walking impairments, back injuries ect, black cabs present a real
>barrier to getting in and out because of the high step. This came as a
>real surprise to the cab firm owner as he was trying to ensure access
>for all
>
> Perhaps the problem lies in the terminology. Should we be
>referring to 'wheelchair accessible' cabs?
>
> Any thoughts anyone?
>
> Many thanks
> Lynn
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dorothy Wilson <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 2:27 PM
> Subject: [ACCESSIBUILT] Accessible Taxis
>
> Has any local authority officers any experience of assessment
>proeedures for
> accessible taxis for licencing purposes. Are their any
>manufacturers out
> there of truely accessible vehicles (i.e. disabled person
>including
> wheelchair user can enter and leave unassisted/ independently)
>and is there
> recognised criteria available which can be realistically applied
>to
> currently maunfactured vehicles.
>
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