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Hi Marcus,
Thanks for your response.
Are their no examples of manufactured vehicles which currently meet the needs
of wheelchair users and ambulant disabled people?
Dorothy
Marcus Ormerod (2/11/05 8:37 AM):
>Hi Dorothy and Lynn
>
>I would tend to agree that it is in the terminology used. We make things
>"accessible" for a particular person or impairment and this tends to be a
>retrofit situation to an existing design. In other words "now we have
>designed the vehicle how do we change it to make it accessible for
>wheelchair users?" An alternative approach is "inclusive design" and the
>starting point should be "ok so we want a vehicle that is as inclusive as
>possible what are the diversity issues that we need to address in the design
>of the vehicle". The hard bit is trying to overcome conflicts in the design
>between the requirements of differing impairments and also the
>practicalities of the object being designed. However, there are less chances
>for going back to the drawing board to start from scratch and more chances
>to alter what already exists, but this does perpetuate accessible solutions
>rather than inclusive designs.
>
>Regards
>Marcus
>
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>From: Accessibuilt list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>Lynn Jeffries
>Sent: 10 February 2005 16:10
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] Accessible Taxis
>
>
>Hi Dorothy,
>
>I can't answer your question but I'd like to ask the group a related
>question on what exactly we mean by 'accessible taxi's'.
>
>The reason I ask is that the major taxi firm where I live have a plan to
>make all their cabs 'accessible'. By this they mean 'black cabs'. I am
>very aware that for a number of disabled people with walking impairments,
>back injuries ect, black cabs present a real barrier to getting in and out
>because of the high step. This came as a real surprise to the cab firm
>owner as he was trying to ensure access for all
>
>Perhaps the problem lies in the terminology. Should we be referring to
>'wheelchair accessible' cabs?
>
>Any thoughts anyone?
>
>Many thanks
>Lynn
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Dorothy Wilson <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 2:27 PM
>Subject: [ACCESSIBUILT] Accessible Taxis
>
>Has any local authority officers any experience of assessment proeedures for
>accessible taxis for licencing purposes. Are their any manufacturers out
>there of truely accessible vehicles (i.e. disabled person including
>wheelchair user can enter and leave unassisted/ independently) and is there
>recognised criteria available which can be realistically applied to
>currently maunfactured vehicles.
>
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Dorothy Wilson
Dundee City Council, City Architectural Services
Tayside House Floor 11/12, 28 Crichton Street, Dundee, DD1 3RQ
Tel. 01382 433865 Email: [log in to unmask]
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