Who is going to ensure that they change their approach? What about all
those individuals they have 'trained' who are out there practising what they
have mislearned? Perhaps you could persuade them to issue a statement on
this forum to the effect that they have recognised their error and intend to
amend their methods and content?
Otherwise, I agree with Stewart that it should be a case of 'name and
shame'.
John.
John Gregory
Access Officer
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From: Croft Consultants [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 10 February 2005 10:45
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Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] English Partnerships
guidance on inclusive design
sorry but no, that would not be fair to the organisation as
they should
have the opportunity to amend their presentation.
Dave
Stewart McGough wrote:
>Can you name the culprit? Please do.
>
>Stewart McGough
>
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>Sent: 10 February 2005 07:37
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: English Partnerships guidance on inclusive
design
>
>
>Hi Marcus
>nice write up but what about getting people out of the
building in an
>emergency?
>
>I recently attended a training course run by one of the
leading
>organizations in UK for access. When asked why an access
audit training
>course did not cover evacuation. The trainers blandly
explained that
>getting out of a building has nothing to do with access and
access
>audits. They went on to say an access auditor/consultant
should not look
>at items such as location and availability of refuges,
signage, or
>evacuation stair design, evacuation plans, etc.
>This unit is providing training for many people in the
access field and
>if they cannot see that getting out is as important as
getting in, why
>are we bothering to promote inclusive design?
>
>I like the WHO and EU harmonized description of
accessibility. (my
>brackets)
>
>Accessibility - The ease of independent approach, entry and
exit
>(evacuation), together with the use of buildings their
facilities,
>services and products. With and assurance of the Health,
Safety and
>Welfare of the individual during the course of those tasks.
>
>
>Regards
>Dave Croft
>
>
>
>Marcus Ormerod wrote:
>
>
>
>>Hi all
>>
>>We have been working for some time with English
Partnerships to produce a
>>guidance note on inclusive design and it is now on their
web site at:
>>
>>http://www.englishpartnerships.co.uk/page.aspx?theLang=001lngdef&pointerid
=1
>>7AB5817D204410390DCD2D4FF2A5729
>>
>>If the URL has wrapped around onto two lines the link may
have been broken
>>so you may need to paste both lines into your web browser.
>>
>>Any comments are most welcome, as is any discussion on the
material
>>contained in it.
>>
>>Regards
>>Marcus
>>
>>Marcus Ormerod
>>SURFACE Inclusive Design Research Centre
>>The University of Salford
>>Bridgewater Building
>>Salford, UK
>>M7 1NU
>>Tel +44 (0)161 295 5405
>>Fax +44 (0)161 295 5011
>>Minicom +44 (0)161 295 3194
>>Web http://www.inclusive-design.it
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