Excellent. Thanks Cassie.
John.
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Dear John
I hope that the following references might be useful. Though I am not
familiar with the particular industry standards, these references do
indicate a commonly accepted height that would create a clear route for a
person of 5' 10":
The best practice publication 'Designing for Accessibility' from the Centre
for Accessible Environments has a diagram to show a this scenario (Figure 11
p20) with 2100mm minimum clearance height for an unprotected projecting
canopy.
The Department for Transport publication 'Inclusive Mobility' covers some
aspects of streetscapes. This refers to access routes (though within
transport related buildings) as having a clear height of not less than
2300mm (2100mm absolute minimum) this guidance also refers to these
dimensions in relation to avoiding hazards generally for visually impaired
people. (The Mobility and Inclusion Unit may have further specific
reference on telephone 020 7944 6100/minicom0207944 3277).
BS8300:2001 covers 'Provision of hazard protection within an access route'
( item 5.7.2 p14). This indicates a height of 2100mm where an unprotected
hazard projects more than 100mm onto an access route. The diagram shows a
similar scenario.
AD Part M of the Building Regulations covers 'Hazards on access routes'
(items 1.38-39 p26-27)
Where a projection is more than 100mm onto an access route it meets part M
if protected by guarding or solid barrier that can be detected by a cane
user. However, as people will most likely be passing under the canopy a
barrier may not be appropriate (or create a hazard in itself) the guidance
given in item 1.39.b for areas below stairs is probably most relevant as
this indicates that projection below 2100mm (approximately 7 feet) should be
protected.
The Joint Mobility Unit (JMU) refer to a minimum clear headroom for scaffold
at 2100mm for 'Streets and External Environments', there is likely to be
more recent and relevant reference directly from the JMU.
The common height of 2100mm or 7ft relates logically to a standard door
height. I will be interested in responses from other people.
Best regards
Cassie
Cassie Herschel-Shorland
access and museum design
33 Belmont Hall Court
Belmont Grove
Lewisham SE13 5DU
020 8297 0416
0780 342 5526
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> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 16:50:19 +0100
> From: John Gregory <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Shop Canopies
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> Hi All,
>
> I have just received an enquiry regarding the canopies found over shops.
> These are the fabric type which extend down from above the shop window.
> While we all know the height for signs and overhanging foliage, what I
> don't
> know is the answer to this. Can anyone help? The enquiry was generated
> from a H&S Officer which reads:
>
> I have received a complaint from a 5'10" tall blind man who has walked
> into
> the wooden edge of a pull down canopy/awning on the pavement outside of a
> butcher's premises. I have spoken to officers from the Highways and
> Building Control Departments and there does not seem to be any guidance
> with
> regard to the height that these canopies/awnings should be able to extend
> to. Other premises in the area that have these canopies seem to have them
> at a similar height. Does anyone know of any industry standards with
> regard
> to these pieces of equipment and the minimum/maximum height that they
> should
> be able to extend to?
>
> John Gregory
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> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 17:19:29 +0100
> From: Elaine <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Shop Canopies
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> Hi John
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> I would have thought that the guidance in Inclusive Mobility section 2.2
> would cover those as it states that any obstruction over the footway
> should
> be at a height of minimum 2100mm.
>
> I find these canopies to be a real problem to visually impaired people
> unless of course the retailer is also obstructing the pavement underneath
> the canopy with identifiable tables loaded with goods.
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> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 17:32:02 +0100
> From: Croft Consultants <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Shop Canopies
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> Hi John
> it comes under the Police Act of the 1830' something which require all
> projections in a street to provide a 2100 mm clearance.
> Fig 8 in BS8300 is probably the best answer.
> If not I'd suggest stair overhangs or window projections as an example
> fro Part M
>
> Regards
> Dave Croft
>
> John Gregory wrote:
>
>>Hi All,
>>
>>I have just received an enquiry regarding the canopies found over shops.
>>These are the fabric type which extend down from above the shop window.
>>While we all know the height for signs and overhanging foliage, what I
>>don't
>>know is the answer to this. Can anyone help? The enquiry was generated
>>from a H&S Officer which reads:
>>
>>I have received a complaint from a 5'10" tall blind man who has walked
>>into
>>the wooden edge of a pull down canopy/awning on the pavement outside of a
>>butcher's premises. I have spoken to officers from the Highways and
>>Building Control Departments and there does not seem to be any guidance
>>with
>>regard to the height that these canopies/awnings should be able to extend
>>to. Other premises in the area that have these canopies seem to have them
>>at a similar height. Does anyone know of any industry standards with
>>regard
>>to these pieces of equipment and the minimum/maximum height that they
>>should
>>be able to extend to?
>>
>>John Gregory
>>Access Officer
>>Cherwell District Council
>>Tel. 01295 221630
>>Email. mailto:[log in to unmask]
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