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Subject:

Accessible Taxis

From:

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Sat, 12 Feb 2005 17:29:20 -0000

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Hi Everyone
Anybody know of ANY 'written' policy inrelation to the public booking/using
a taxi when they have an 'Assistance Dog'?? These wonderful Dogs are being
barred (where I live at anyrate) as they are NOT 'Guide Dogs' so the Taxi
company states!! THANKS  Liz East
Chair 'Access-Audit' Sub-Committee
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From: Bracewell, Robert <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] Accessible Taxis


Dear All,

I'm really pleased that this has reared its head again. I've been
banging my head against hard things for a couple of years now. It was
announced here that the taxi accessibility regulations were going to be
piloted in certain areas, this area (Lancaster) was chosen as part of
the pilot scheme. Hurrah I thought, however, it transpired that these
regulations would be phased in over a period of 10 years starting in
2010!!

Rob

_______________________________________________
Rob Bracewell BA (Hons)
Access Officer,
Forward Planning Team,
Lancaster City Council,
Palatine Hall,
Dalton Square,
Lancaster,
LA1 1PW
Tel. & Minicom. 01524 582372 (please use announcer)
Mob. 07792439623
Fax. 01524 582322



-----Original Message-----
From: Accessibuilt list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Thomas, Carol
Sent: 11 February 2005 11:52
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] Accessible Taxis


Hi all
The Department for Transport has been looking at the issue of
'accessible' taxis in preparation for proposals for the Taxi
Accessibility Regulations under Part 5 of the DDA. The long awaited
consultation on this should be out in 2005 ....

You may also find useful the DPTAC (Disabled Persons Transport Advisory
Committee) publication Making Private Hire Services Accessible to
Disabled People, A Good Practice Guide - available on the DPTAC website
- on the web site click on taxis

regards,
Carol

Carol Thomas
JMU Access Partnership

________________________________

From: Accessibuilt list on behalf of Marcus Ormerod
Sent: Fri 11/02/2005 08:37
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] Accessible Taxis


Hi Dorothy and Lynn

I would tend to agree that it is in the terminology used. We make things
"accessible" for a particular person or impairment and this tends to be
a retrofit situation to an existing design. In other words "now we have
designed the vehicle how do we change it to make it accessible for
wheelchair users?" An alternative approach is "inclusive design" and the
starting point should be "ok so we want a vehicle that is as inclusive
as possible what are the diversity issues that we need to address in the
design of the vehicle". The hard bit is trying to overcome conflicts in
the design between the requirements of differing impairments and also
the practicalities of the object being designed. However, there are less
chances for going back to the drawing board to start from scratch and
more chances to alter what already exists, but this does perpetuate
accessible solutions rather than inclusive designs.

Regards
Marcus

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        From: Accessibuilt list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Lynn Jeffries
        Sent: 10 February 2005 16:10
        To: [log in to unmask]
        Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] Accessible Taxis


        Hi Dorothy,

        I can't answer your question but I'd like to ask the group a
related question on what exactly we mean by 'accessible taxi's'.

        The reason I ask is that the major taxi firm where I live have a
plan to make all their cabs 'accessible'.  By this they mean 'black
cabs'.  I am very aware that for a number of disabled people with
walking impairments, back injuries ect, black cabs present a real
barrier to getting in and out because of the high step.  This came as a
real surprise to the cab firm owner as he was trying to ensure access
for all

        Perhaps the problem lies in the terminology.  Should we be
referring to 'wheelchair accessible' cabs?

        Any thoughts anyone?

        Many thanks
        Lynn
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Dorothy Wilson <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
        To: [log in to unmask]
        Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 2:27 PM
        Subject: [ACCESSIBUILT] Accessible Taxis

        Has any local authority officers any experience of assessment
proeedures for
        accessible taxis for licencing purposes. Are their any
manufacturers out
        there of truely accessible vehicles (i.e. disabled person
including
        wheelchair user can enter and leave unassisted/ independently)
and is there
        recognised criteria available which can be realistically applied
to
        currently maunfactured vehicles.

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