Hi Dave
I appreciate your point and guess that we should make egress more specific
in the document. The difficulty being that best practice documentation that
can be referred to in the area of emergency egress is woefully out-of-date,
such as BS5588 part 8.
As far as training is concerned on our courses we always include emergency
egress as we consider "in means out".
The WHO and EU definition of accessibility is interesting especially since
you have had to add evacuation in brackets to it. Without that, and I would
suggest "emergency" is also added to either "evacuation" or "egress", then
only the day to day exiting could be determined as being part of access.
Thanks for the comments
Marcus
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Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] English Partnerships guidance on inclusive
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Hi Marcus
nice write up but what about getting people out of the building in an
emergency?
I recently attended a training course run by one of the leading
organizations in UK for access. When asked why an access audit training
course did not cover evacuation. The trainers blandly explained that getting
out of a building has nothing to do with access and access audits. They went
on to say an access auditor/consultant should not look at items such as
location and availability of refuges, signage, or evacuation stair design,
evacuation plans, etc. This unit is providing training for many people in
the access field and if they cannot see that getting out is as important as
getting in, why are we bothering to promote inclusive design?
I like the WHO and EU harmonized description of accessibility. (my
brackets)
Accessibility - The ease of independent approach, entry and exit
(evacuation), together with the use of buildings their facilities, services
and products. With and assurance of the Health, Safety and Welfare of the
individual during the course of those tasks.
Regards
Dave Croft
Marcus Ormerod wrote:
>Hi all
>
>We have been working for some time with English Partnerships to produce
>a guidance note on inclusive design and it is now on their web site at:
>
>http://www.englishpartnerships.co.uk/page.aspx?theLang=001lngdef&pointe
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>7AB5817D204410390DCD2D4FF2A5729
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>If the URL has wrapped around onto two lines the link may have been
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>Any comments are most welcome, as is any discussion on the material
>contained in it.
>
>Regards
>Marcus
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>Marcus Ormerod
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