Hi Malcolm,
I agree with Pete regarding Building Control and the 'thin end of the
wedge'. However, it all depends on whether the project is subject to
Building Regs - if there is no substantial work involved in the
installation, then they would not normally get involved. If it is being
done to accord with DDA, then this allows for such variations in that if the
provision of an accessible toilet would mean substantial financial cost
which cannot be afforded, then in reality they would not be required to
provide it. While 50mm doesn't sound a lot, it can make the difference
between it being used and not. In my experience most accessible WCs are
below spec, because the measurements are done from brickwork to brickwork
without considering linings and tiles. This tends to make them around the
1430-50 mark anyway. If Building Control is involved, try writing an that
Access Statement explaining the problems/constraints and any alternative
solutions you might have. Building Regs is all about 'reasonable'
provision, so it may be possible. It is also better that there is a
facility to be used than nothing for the sake of 50mm.
John Gregory
Access Officer
Cherwell District Council
Tel. 01295 221630
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From: Pete Leaver
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Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] manouvering Space
What sort of wall treatment is proposed? for example, you
could just
about find 50mm by having painted blockwork rather than dry
lining.
Most of the dimensions in the building regs are absolute
minimum, so
allowing them to be reduced further could set a dangerous
precedent
On 14 Mar 2005, at 14:59, Malcolm Crate wrote:
> Dear all
> I have a community hall that is is being refurbished and
they are
> installing
> an Accessible WC at the moment. Unfortunately the maximum
width
> available
> is 1450. I can create additional width but at a
considerable extra
> cost
> because it would involve removing part of a loadbearing
masonry wall.
> My
> question is should I let it go ahead at 1450 x 2200 or
should I be
> absolutely strict on the 1500 minimum width?
> Regards
> Malcolm Crate
> Access and Building Standards Manager
> Department for Sustainable Communities
> Comhairle nan Eilean Siar
> Tel: 01851709325
> Mobile: 07799066218
>
>
>
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