Hi Dave very interested here -been down that road -what about the role of
poetry in getting to grips with things -do you know survivor poets ( I used
to be more involved) -writing performance-workshops publishing supporting
each other etc etc and even after all this time find them ok (of course they
have strops) being run mainly by us'users'
Bests for new year
Radio just talking about real life/ art via P K Dick now he was a mess
lovely writer for this old bloke
P survivor poet P
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From: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and
poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Bircumshaw
Sent: 18 December 2005 22:28
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: People as a broken objects reassembled:
> Art vs Real Life? Isn't that a fake binary? I don't see one obscures the
> other; I can see how each might inform and enrich and vitalise each other.
Dear Alison
I am not being aggressive here, but I cannot see how or what sort of
sub-Leavisite cliches like 'inform and enrich and vitalise' can apply. I
don't think they'd be of much comfort (earlier this year my Vixen tried
doing a stint as a hospital visitor - she found herself talking to people
almost on the point of death, who were at times in tears, she couldn't
handle it, as she just broke down too - what can you say? Maybe nothing.)
I really can't imagine if we went up to the mental hospital and told Umi
that poetry was there for her to 'inform and enrich and vitalise' that it
would hold much cachet for her.
Sorry, but all the best
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alison Croggon" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: People as a broken objects reassembled:
> On 19/12/05 9:03 AM, "David Bircumshaw" <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > The point of posting this is that at times one realises just what a load
of
> > hot air poetry, and even more so, discussions about poetry can be. I
hope
> > this doesn't come across as cynical.
>
> Art vs Real Life? Isn't that a fake binary? I don't see one obscures the
> other; I can see how each might inform and enrich and vitalise each other.
>
> Discussions about anything can be a load of hot air; I can't see how the
> human passions and desires and fragilities that they express are not,
> however, part of life.
>
> Best
>
> A
>
>
> Alison Croggon
>
> Blog: http://theatrenotes.blogspot.com
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