Days, hombre, which pass like stony decades in the Senate calendar.
At 02:54 PM 12/21/2005, you wrote:
> > You're only hoping it's the darkest day of the year, Steve--solstice or no,
> > there's ten more to go. But who am I to cavil at youthful optimism?
>
>Explique, Mark - not to deny my youthful optimism, but "ten more to go of
>what"?? Days, years, soltices??
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > At 12:48 PM 12/21/2005, you wrote:
> >> Curious to me how the Bush Admininistration portrays "torture" as a
> national
> >> benefit, the way itprotects 'us', 'our way of life', etc."
> >> Isn't it, I think, similar to the way Slavery prior the Civil War was also
> >> portrayed and supported also as a national benefit.
> >>
> >> Doug, all reports outside the Bush Way, indicate that Iraq is already
> deeply
> >> into a civil war, and the elections have cemented this war as a way of
> life
> >> (sadly). Bush folks - in total defiance of reality - will keep spouting
> >> "democracy" so they can out of there before total collapse. They will have
> >> to deal for the oil through other venues than a collapsing democratic
> >> charade.
> >>
> >> Talk about "unintended consequences" - the same folks brought us Enron
> & Co.
> >> as a model for fiction mongering.
> >>
> >> Oh, well, a happy Solstice to all!
> >>
> >> Stephen V
> >>
> >>
> >>> Yes, exactly, that news has been around, as you say.
> >>>
> >>> The changes in government in South America these days are interesting,
> >>> if only because it seems the US government (& CIA) don't seem to feel
> >>> they can just go in & take these new leftist leaders out the way they
> >>> did in Chile back in the day....
> >>>
> >>> too busy bringing democracy to the Middle East...? (not that an
> >>> unimposed & perhaps real (vaid?) democracy there wouldn't be a good
> >>> thing....).
> >>>
> >>> Doug
> >>> On 20-Dec-05, at 11:13 AM, Roger Day wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> For a long time, certainly before 9/11 and way back even to the 80s
> >>>> I've read articles involving torture and the School Of The Americas
> >>>> in Fort Benning, Georgia, where apparently the CIA train officers and
> >>>> NCOs from Latin American countries.
> >>>>
> >>>> Roger
> >>>>
> >>>> On 12/20/05, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>>>> I am listening to CBC's The Current as I write, to a USAmerican
> >>>>> psychologist, Alfred McCoy, author of A Question of Torture, on the
> >>>>> US's use of torture, and how what is happening now is leading to the
> >>>>> normalization of torture by the US. He's especially appalled by the
> >>>>> way
> >>>>> the US representatives to the international community continue to
> >>>>> 'lie'
> >>>>> (basically his term) saying that the US does not torture, when in fact
> >>>>> he asserts it has done so for decades, & much more so now.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Not the merriest of news in this week....
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Doug
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Douglas Barbour
> >>>>> 11655 - 72 Avenue NW
> >>>>> Edmonton Ab T6G 0B9
> >>>>> (780) 436 3320
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the precision of openness
> >>>>> is not a vagueness
> >>>>> it is an accumulation
> >>>>> cumulous
> >>>>>
> >>>>> bpNichol
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> http://www.badstep.net/
> >>>> http://www.cb1poetry.org.uk/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Douglas Barbour
> >>> 11655 - 72 Avenue NW
> >>> Edmonton Ab T6G 0B9
> >>> (780) 436 3320
> >>>
> >>> the precision of openness
> >>> is not a vagueness
> >>> it is an accumulation
> >>> cumulous
> >>>
> >>> bpNichol
|