As Groucho Marx said, "You're only as old as the woman
you feel."
R. Rodent
(Incidentally, when did the Jesuits become a sept of
the Trappist Order? News to me.
Robbie the Universal Robot)
--- Joanna Boulter <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> How many women do you have experience of, then?
>
> joanna
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roger Collett" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 9:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Other French joke
>
>
> In my experience, it is not possible to sensorily
> deprive women. They always
> damned well hear
> every little (even sotto voce) remark.
>
> Roger
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Judy Prince" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 9:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Other French joke
>
>
> ok, if you insist, mark: go ahead and provide
> yourself sensory deprivation
> as well. we'll poke
> you in the tummy every 3 days to be sure you've been
> fed enuff. any ideas?
>
> getting older and sowier by the thread here,
>
> your excellent ebullient, non-sensorily deprived
> friend
>
> judy
>
> > From: Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: 2005/11/25 Fri PM 10:48:03 EST
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Other French joke
> >
> > Just to be clear, I'm not trying to be
> prescriptive, just puzzling over
> > this. There's an alternate tradition of solitary
> silence, practiced by
> > religious hermits and various Indian subcontinent
> holy men. It's also
> > recorded in the bible--Elijah's forty days in the
> wilderness. In Tibetan
> > Buddhist practice adepts sometimes pass three days
> in silence in total
> > darkness--sensory deprivation as well as silence.
> American Indian vision
> > quests also were both solitary and silent. So the
> question is--in what
> > way,
> > and for what reason, the communal or the solitary
> methods?
> >
> > At 10:01 PM 11/25/2005, you wrote:
> > >Mark Weiss wrote:
> > >
> > >>Here's an interesting question, interesting to
> me, at least. A lot of my
> > >>friends go on retreats to Catholic or Buddhist
> venues, where they're
> > >>silent among others being silent. I live and
> work by myself and in fact
> > >>spend many days saying very little. My favorite
> travel is solitary
> > >>walking and camping. Obviously a lot of people
> for a lot of millenia
> > >>have
> > >>referred being silent in a crowd. Any ideas?
> > >>
> > >>Mark
> > >
> > >There is probably some (or are at least ten)
> psychological explanations
> > >for silence, where and how it is kept. One or
> ten, I don't know the
> > >answer. Which of course will not stop me from
> speculating. First, if
> > >someone is working alone or is walking quietly
> through a street or other
> > >public space, they MAY not fully conscious of
> keeping silence. How many
> > >of us would talk to ourselves in the street or in
> the subway? I know,
> > >any
> > >large city has enough of them. While working?--I
> usually don't notice
> > >when I talk to myself or to the task.
> > >
> > >The idea of a silent retreat for me is that the
> silence is both imposed
> > >and conscious. It's a rule: and if you don't
> follow it, you're wasting
> > >your time and the retreatmaster's. I suppose
> that's because the silence
> > >is intended as an integral spiritual discipline
> that be more painful than
> > >the cliched collection of birch twigs or a cat
> 'o' nine tails because the
> > >inner beating you can give yourself happens on
> the way to that conscious
> > >contact with God or whomever. An hour of silence
> has taken me places I
> > >had no wish to go; yet I often wished I had more
> time to find out what
> > >was
> > >on the other side of the All-Holy Me. I suspect
> silence is a powerful
> > >tool to get there.
> > >
> > >I have known several Jesuits and they share
> something in common: each
> > >during his formation has had to undergo three
> 30-day retreats built
> > >around
> > >Ignatius Loyola's "Spiritual Exercises."
> Actually it's four weeks. As I
> > >understand it, for the whole period you may not
> speak except briefly to a
> > >spiritual director about what to pray and
> meditate about and (end of the
> > >day) how it came out. In a way, I believe you're
> going out into the
> > >spiritual Desert of yourself to see who and what
> you meet there.
> > >
> > >ken
> > >
> > >---------------
> > >Kenneth Wolman www.kenwolman.com
> kenwolman.blogspot.com
> > >
> > > "You have to be a speedy reader,
> cause there's
> > > so, so much to read!" - Dr.
> Sousé
> >
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