I can't find the original e-mail, Martin. But, if memory serves, it was more
to do with them worrying about whether we were academic enough to be on
their server. I suppose we must be in that we're still here.
best
Randolph
----- Original Message -----
From: "MJ Walker" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [POETRYETC] Thought for the day
> Well, one's irritation was apparently somewhat justified. Time to change
> listserv host? I'm not keen on Big Bro, academic, hackademic or epidemic,
> sniffing around checking out the shit on my shoes. Would you mind telling
> us what this "warning shot" was about, Randolph?
> Best
> Martin
> wild honey press wrote:
>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> fair enough. I'm with you on the thought that excluding any group from
>> one's humour is hardly inclusive. And Martin's right, the thought of
>> monitoring is a bit disquieting. There was a warning shot across our bows
>> a while ago and it's left me a little jumpy. Sorry for the attack of
>> nervous nelly.
>>
>> best
>>
>> Randolph
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Bircumshaw"
>> <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: [POETRYETC] Thought for the day
>>
>>
>>> Hi Randolph
>>>
>>> I didn't realise that my off-hand casual remark was going to stir things
>>> so
>>> much. I live, I exist in, a truly multi-cultural society, to accomadate
>>> each
>>> we accept the piss-take, I rib Moslem friends of mine something rotten,
>>> and
>>> they go along with it, and get me back too. What we all agree on,
>>> whether
>>> Sikh, Hindu, Jain, Moslem, Christian or atheist or agnostic is what a
>>> load
>>> of crap Leicester City Football Club are at the moment, we can spend
>>> hours
>>> mulling over a pint about this serious subject - it's got that bad we
>>> even
>>> let the women talk (joke)
>>>
>>> I'm a Christian. The Bible is full of bollocks. C'est la vie.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "wild honey press" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 4:15 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Thought for the day
>>>
>>>
>>>> Dear David,
>>>>
>>>> I'd prefer if you didn't call what some regard as sacred texts as a
>>>> load
>>>
>>> of
>>>
>>>> bollocks.
>>>>
>>>> best
>>>>
>>>> Randolph
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "David Bircumshaw" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 11:37 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [POETRYETC] Thought for the day
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Dear Granpa
>>>> >
>>>> > now i dont listen to that thing daily, i just catch it now and again,
>>>
>>> BUT
>>>
>>>> > you are wrong - they have had at least one atheist talking, i know
>>>
>>> because
>>>
>>>> > i
>>>> > heard that one, point two, the emphasis in recent times has not been
>>>> > churchy, the star turns are a Sikh and a Jew, it does matter, in our
>>>> > society, that bridges are offered, i'm thinking this time about the
>>>> > terrible
>>>> > inter-racial violence that has beset Brum, that between
>>>
>>> Anglo-Caribeaeans
>>>
>>>> > ( can't spell that right this time of night) and Asians.
>>>> >
>>>> > These matters are scary, I had to occasion the other day to actually
>>>
>>> read
>>>
>>>> > the Qu'ran - in translation - it reminded me nothing so much as
>>>> the > Book
>>>> > of
>>>> > Mormon - i.e. a load of bollocks - but unfortunately a load of b.
>>>> that
>>>> > justifies, exhorts in fact, violence. I thought parts of the Bible
>>>> were
>>>> > nuts
>>>> > but this is in a class by its own.
>>>> >
>>>> > Best
>>>> >
>>>> > Dave
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "Patrick McManus" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 8:43 PM
>>>> > Subject: Re: Thought for the day
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> Dave-Bertrand Russell as an atheist would not be invited -that is
>>>> the
>>>> >> problem
>>>> >> For twenty tears or so other voices- than smoothy churchfolk (one
>>>
>>> always
>>>
>>>> > if
>>>> >> caught before turning it off wonders- how they will get god into it)
>>>> >> other
>>>> >> voices have been trying to get heard-but it has some how been sewn
>>>> >> up-shame(like bishops being allowed as of right in the House of
>>>> Lords?
>>>> >> P atheist P
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>> >> From: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to
>>>> poetry and
>>>> >> poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David >>
>>>> Bircumshaw
>>>> >> Sent: 05 November 2005 19:56
>>>> >> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> >> Subject: Re: Thought for the day
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Roger, I doubt whether an advent of humanists or atheists would make
>>>
>>> any
>>>
>>>> >> difference to the platitude output of TFTD. As I see it, in its
>>>> >> half-baked
>>>> >> way, it is doing a service in admiting the voices of other
>>>> traditions
>>>> > (Sikh,
>>>> >> Moslem, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist) in an anodyne way to the
>>>> actuality of
>>>> >> Britain. what is noticeably absent is the 'God-squad' - the
>>>> right-wing
>>>> >> fundamentalist evangelical Christians - they don't get air-time.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Yes, its a fuzz, so are the services on long wave too, but I would
>>>
>>> rather
>>>
>>>> >> that fuzz than other things. The way I read it is that it is a
>>>> sprout
>>>> >> from
>>>> >> the liberal-humanist tradition (which is what is responsible, to an
>>>> > extent,
>>>> >> for what elements of being civilised this country has) - Bertrand
>>>> >> Russell,
>>>> >> if he were still alive, would not be out of place on it.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> All the Best
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Dave
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >> From: "Roger Day" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 10:27 AM
>>>> >> Subject: Re: Thought for the day
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I think Patrick got it about right. The fact that the people on TFTD
>>>> >> sound so reasonable and cosy and warmsy marmite doesn't lessen their
>>>> >> status, or their fundamentalism. The fact that they're not
>>>> (currently)
>>>> >> caling for anyone's head to be chopped doesn't essen their
>>>> potential,
>>>> >> or the anomaly of this secular nation being treated to their
>>>> >> half-baked ideas and platitudes on a daily basis. A better leavening
>>>> >> of atheists and humanists wouldn't go amiss. Also, the anomaly of
>>>> the
>>>> >> daily service on R4 long wave - that should have been dunked years
>>>> >> ago. The BBC sometimes feels as if the 1940s never ended. Orwell
>>>> would
>>>> >> be quite at home, I think.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The religious in the UK have their own radio and TV stations these
>>>
>>> days.
>>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Roger
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 11/5/05, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> >> > Well there was a certain irony in my choice of post title,
>>>> Patrick. >> > I
>>>> >> think
>>>> >> > you might give a rather wrong impression of the beeb thing to
>>>> our US
>>>> >> > cousins - it's not, is it, by any means God-spouting
>>>> fundamentalism,
>>>> > it's
>>>> >> > rather soft and soggy and very very multi-cultural : Sikhs,
>>>> Muslims,
>>>> > Jews,
>>>> >> > Hindus as well as Christians do the speak. I think they had an
>>>
>>> atheist
>>>
>>>> >> once
>>>> >> > as well. It is, generally speaking, quite harmless, and
>>>> forgetable,
>>>> > apart
>>>> >> > from some of Rabbi Lionel Blum's jokes (at times!)
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Poets get a look in on R4 early too - there was Mr Horowitz
>>>
>>> inimitably
>>>
>>>> >> > singing his ideas of how Blake should be a little while back. The
>>>> >> presenters
>>>> >> > have been known to quote Milton from memory (on Today I'm talking
>>>
>>> about
>>>
>>>> >> > now) - imagine that across the waters.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Best
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Dave
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >> > From: "Patrick McManus" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >> > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:37 AM
>>>> >> > Subject: Re: Thought for the day
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > > 'Thought for the day' on our radio is religious propaganda/
>>>> >> > > brainwashing-/toshing posing as serious ideas-the BBC is
>>>> breaking
>>>
>>> its
>>>
>>>> >> > > charter on balance here -why not instead of religious
>>>> pundits >> > > have
>>>> > some
>>>> >> > > real thinkers (now not allowed)or god help us!!!bring on the
>>>> lions
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>>> >> even
>>>> >> > > some poets spouting off-protest now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>> >> > > P atheist P
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> http://www.badstep.net/
>>>> >> http://www.cb1poetry.org.uk/
>>>> >
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>
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