Dear David,
I'd prefer if you didn't call what some regard as sacred texts as a load of
bollocks.
best
Randolph
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Bircumshaw" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: [POETRYETC] Thought for the day
> Dear Granpa
>
> now i dont listen to that thing daily, i just catch it now and again, BUT
> you are wrong - they have had at least one atheist talking, i know because
> i
> heard that one, point two, the emphasis in recent times has not been
> churchy, the star turns are a Sikh and a Jew, it does matter, in our
> society, that bridges are offered, i'm thinking this time about the
> terrible
> inter-racial violence that has beset Brum, that between Anglo-Caribeaeans
> ( can't spell that right this time of night) and Asians.
>
> These matters are scary, I had to occasion the other day to actually read
> the Qu'ran - in translation - it reminded me nothing so much as the Book
> of
> Mormon - i.e. a load of bollocks - but unfortunately a load of b. that
> justifies, exhorts in fact, violence. I thought parts of the Bible were
> nuts
> but this is in a class by its own.
>
> Best
>
> Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick McManus" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 8:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Thought for the day
>
>
>> Dave-Bertrand Russell as an atheist would not be invited -that is the
>> problem
>> For twenty tears or so other voices- than smoothy churchfolk (one always
> if
>> caught before turning it off wonders- how they will get god into it)
>> other
>> voices have been trying to get heard-but it has some how been sewn
>> up-shame(like bishops being allowed as of right in the House of Lords?
>> P atheist P
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and
>> poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Bircumshaw
>> Sent: 05 November 2005 19:56
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Thought for the day
>>
>> Roger, I doubt whether an advent of humanists or atheists would make any
>> difference to the platitude output of TFTD. As I see it, in its
>> half-baked
>> way, it is doing a service in admiting the voices of other traditions
> (Sikh,
>> Moslem, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist) in an anodyne way to the actuality of
>> Britain. what is noticeably absent is the 'God-squad' - the right-wing
>> fundamentalist evangelical Christians - they don't get air-time.
>>
>> Yes, its a fuzz, so are the services on long wave too, but I would rather
>> that fuzz than other things. The way I read it is that it is a sprout
>> from
>> the liberal-humanist tradition (which is what is responsible, to an
> extent,
>> for what elements of being civilised this country has) - Bertrand
>> Russell,
>> if he were still alive, would not be out of place on it.
>>
>> All the Best
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Roger Day" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 10:27 AM
>> Subject: Re: Thought for the day
>>
>>
>> I think Patrick got it about right. The fact that the people on TFTD
>> sound so reasonable and cosy and warmsy marmite doesn't lessen their
>> status, or their fundamentalism. The fact that they're not (currently)
>> caling for anyone's head to be chopped doesn't essen their potential,
>> or the anomaly of this secular nation being treated to their
>> half-baked ideas and platitudes on a daily basis. A better leavening
>> of atheists and humanists wouldn't go amiss. Also, the anomaly of the
>> daily service on R4 long wave - that should have been dunked years
>> ago. The BBC sometimes feels as if the 1940s never ended. Orwell would
>> be quite at home, I think.
>>
>> The religious in the UK have their own radio and TV stations these days.
>>
>> Roger
>>
>> On 11/5/05, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> > Well there was a certain irony in my choice of post title, Patrick. I
>> think
>> > you might give a rather wrong impression of the beeb thing to our US
>> > cousins - it's not, is it, by any means God-spouting fundamentalism,
> it's
>> > rather soft and soggy and very very multi-cultural : Sikhs, Muslims,
> Jews,
>> > Hindus as well as Christians do the speak. I think they had an atheist
>> once
>> > as well. It is, generally speaking, quite harmless, and forgetable,
> apart
>> > from some of Rabbi Lionel Blum's jokes (at times!)
>> >
>> > Poets get a look in on R4 early too - there was Mr Horowitz inimitably
>> > singing his ideas of how Blake should be a little while back. The
>> presenters
>> > have been known to quote Milton from memory (on Today I'm talking about
>> > now) - imagine that across the waters.
>> >
>> > Best
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Patrick McManus" <[log in to unmask]>
>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:37 AM
>> > Subject: Re: Thought for the day
>> >
>> >
>> > > 'Thought for the day' on our radio is religious propaganda/
>> > > brainwashing-/toshing posing as serious ideas-the BBC is breaking its
>> > > charter on balance here -why not instead of religious pundits have
> some
>> > > real thinkers (now not allowed)or god help us!!!bring on the lions or
>> even
>> > > some poets spouting off-protest now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> > > P atheist P
>> >
>>
>>
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