hi daddio
Dawkins gave an *alternate* tftd, an hour after the regular one, which
was given by the wife of a vicar, which is as about as weaselly as you
can get.
http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=3&set_id=1&art_id=qw1029339180183B216
Interestingly, the Telegraph pretty much chimes with your viewpoint.
Roger
On 11/5/05, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Dear Granpa
>
> now i dont listen to that thing daily, i just catch it now and again, BUT
> you are wrong - they have had at least one atheist talking, i know because i
> heard that one, point two, the emphasis in recent times has not been
> churchy, the star turns are a Sikh and a Jew, it does matter, in our
> society, that bridges are offered, i'm thinking this time about the terrible
> inter-racial violence that has beset Brum, that between Anglo-Caribeaeans
> ( can't spell that right this time of night) and Asians.
>
> These matters are scary, I had to occasion the other day to actually read
> the Qu'ran - in translation - it reminded me nothing so much as the Book of
> Mormon - i.e. a load of bollocks - but unfortunately a load of b. that
> justifies, exhorts in fact, violence. I thought parts of the Bible were nuts
> but this is in a class by its own.
>
> Best
>
> Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick McManus" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 8:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Thought for the day
>
>
> > Dave-Bertrand Russell as an atheist would not be invited -that is the
> > problem
> > For twenty tears or so other voices- than smoothy churchfolk (one always
> if
> > caught before turning it off wonders- how they will get god into it) other
> > voices have been trying to get heard-but it has some how been sewn
> > up-shame(like bishops being allowed as of right in the House of Lords?
> > P atheist P
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and
> > poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Bircumshaw
> > Sent: 05 November 2005 19:56
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Thought for the day
> >
> > Roger, I doubt whether an advent of humanists or atheists would make any
> > difference to the platitude output of TFTD. As I see it, in its half-baked
> > way, it is doing a service in admiting the voices of other traditions
> (Sikh,
> > Moslem, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist) in an anodyne way to the actuality of
> > Britain. what is noticeably absent is the 'God-squad' - the right-wing
> > fundamentalist evangelical Christians - they don't get air-time.
> >
> > Yes, its a fuzz, so are the services on long wave too, but I would rather
> > that fuzz than other things. The way I read it is that it is a sprout from
> > the liberal-humanist tradition (which is what is responsible, to an
> extent,
> > for what elements of being civilised this country has) - Bertrand Russell,
> > if he were still alive, would not be out of place on it.
> >
> > All the Best
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Roger Day" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 10:27 AM
> > Subject: Re: Thought for the day
> >
> >
> > I think Patrick got it about right. The fact that the people on TFTD
> > sound so reasonable and cosy and warmsy marmite doesn't lessen their
> > status, or their fundamentalism. The fact that they're not (currently)
> > caling for anyone's head to be chopped doesn't essen their potential,
> > or the anomaly of this secular nation being treated to their
> > half-baked ideas and platitudes on a daily basis. A better leavening
> > of atheists and humanists wouldn't go amiss. Also, the anomaly of the
> > daily service on R4 long wave - that should have been dunked years
> > ago. The BBC sometimes feels as if the 1940s never ended. Orwell would
> > be quite at home, I think.
> >
> > The religious in the UK have their own radio and TV stations these days.
> >
> > Roger
> >
> > On 11/5/05, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > Well there was a certain irony in my choice of post title, Patrick. I
> > think
> > > you might give a rather wrong impression of the beeb thing to our US
> > > cousins - it's not, is it, by any means God-spouting fundamentalism,
> it's
> > > rather soft and soggy and very very multi-cultural : Sikhs, Muslims,
> Jews,
> > > Hindus as well as Christians do the speak. I think they had an atheist
> > once
> > > as well. It is, generally speaking, quite harmless, and forgetable,
> apart
> > > from some of Rabbi Lionel Blum's jokes (at times!)
> > >
> > > Poets get a look in on R4 early too - there was Mr Horowitz inimitably
> > > singing his ideas of how Blake should be a little while back. The
> > presenters
> > > have been known to quote Milton from memory (on Today I'm talking about
> > > now) - imagine that across the waters.
> > >
> > > Best
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Patrick McManus" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:37 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Thought for the day
> > >
> > >
> > > > 'Thought for the day' on our radio is religious propaganda/
> > > > brainwashing-/toshing posing as serious ideas-the BBC is breaking its
> > > > charter on balance here -why not instead of religious pundits have
> some
> > > > real thinkers (now not allowed)or god help us!!!bring on the lions or
> > even
> > > > some poets spouting off-protest now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > > P atheist P
> > >
> >
> >
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