Dear Granpa
now i dont listen to that thing daily, i just catch it now and again, BUT
you are wrong - they have had at least one atheist talking, i know because i
heard that one, point two, the emphasis in recent times has not been
churchy, the star turns are a Sikh and a Jew, it does matter, in our
society, that bridges are offered, i'm thinking this time about the terrible
inter-racial violence that has beset Brum, that between Anglo-Caribeaeans
( can't spell that right this time of night) and Asians.
These matters are scary, I had to occasion the other day to actually read
the Qu'ran - in translation - it reminded me nothing so much as the Book of
Mormon - i.e. a load of bollocks - but unfortunately a load of b. that
justifies, exhorts in fact, violence. I thought parts of the Bible were nuts
but this is in a class by its own.
Best
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick McManus" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: Thought for the day
> Dave-Bertrand Russell as an atheist would not be invited -that is the
> problem
> For twenty tears or so other voices- than smoothy churchfolk (one always
if
> caught before turning it off wonders- how they will get god into it) other
> voices have been trying to get heard-but it has some how been sewn
> up-shame(like bishops being allowed as of right in the House of Lords?
> P atheist P
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and
> poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Bircumshaw
> Sent: 05 November 2005 19:56
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Thought for the day
>
> Roger, I doubt whether an advent of humanists or atheists would make any
> difference to the platitude output of TFTD. As I see it, in its half-baked
> way, it is doing a service in admiting the voices of other traditions
(Sikh,
> Moslem, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist) in an anodyne way to the actuality of
> Britain. what is noticeably absent is the 'God-squad' - the right-wing
> fundamentalist evangelical Christians - they don't get air-time.
>
> Yes, its a fuzz, so are the services on long wave too, but I would rather
> that fuzz than other things. The way I read it is that it is a sprout from
> the liberal-humanist tradition (which is what is responsible, to an
extent,
> for what elements of being civilised this country has) - Bertrand Russell,
> if he were still alive, would not be out of place on it.
>
> All the Best
>
> Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roger Day" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 10:27 AM
> Subject: Re: Thought for the day
>
>
> I think Patrick got it about right. The fact that the people on TFTD
> sound so reasonable and cosy and warmsy marmite doesn't lessen their
> status, or their fundamentalism. The fact that they're not (currently)
> caling for anyone's head to be chopped doesn't essen their potential,
> or the anomaly of this secular nation being treated to their
> half-baked ideas and platitudes on a daily basis. A better leavening
> of atheists and humanists wouldn't go amiss. Also, the anomaly of the
> daily service on R4 long wave - that should have been dunked years
> ago. The BBC sometimes feels as if the 1940s never ended. Orwell would
> be quite at home, I think.
>
> The religious in the UK have their own radio and TV stations these days.
>
> Roger
>
> On 11/5/05, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Well there was a certain irony in my choice of post title, Patrick. I
> think
> > you might give a rather wrong impression of the beeb thing to our US
> > cousins - it's not, is it, by any means God-spouting fundamentalism,
it's
> > rather soft and soggy and very very multi-cultural : Sikhs, Muslims,
Jews,
> > Hindus as well as Christians do the speak. I think they had an atheist
> once
> > as well. It is, generally speaking, quite harmless, and forgetable,
apart
> > from some of Rabbi Lionel Blum's jokes (at times!)
> >
> > Poets get a look in on R4 early too - there was Mr Horowitz inimitably
> > singing his ideas of how Blake should be a little while back. The
> presenters
> > have been known to quote Milton from memory (on Today I'm talking about
> > now) - imagine that across the waters.
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Patrick McManus" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: Thought for the day
> >
> >
> > > 'Thought for the day' on our radio is religious propaganda/
> > > brainwashing-/toshing posing as serious ideas-the BBC is breaking its
> > > charter on balance here -why not instead of religious pundits have
some
> > > real thinkers (now not allowed)or god help us!!!bring on the lions or
> even
> > > some poets spouting off-protest now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > P atheist P
> >
>
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