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Re: bod dylan plus poem 'JOKE'

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Roger Day <[log in to unmask]>

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Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and poetics <[log in to unmask]>

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Thu, 29 Sep 2005 17:52:22 +0100

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Pennebaker directed "Don't Look Back".

Someone on another list pointed out that, in the Scorcese film, no one
in pop/folk had much to say about Bob the human-being rather than Bob
the genius. Guess that's the price he paid. Although one can never the
sheer pressure he was under in '65.

Agree with the songs - and I came by him in the 70s rather than the 60s.

Roger

On 9/29/05, Ken Wolman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Roger Day wrote:
>
> >I'd've liked Scorcese test the limits of his friendship with Dylan -
> >all those shots of Dylan at the typewriter "writing" his poetry - he
> >should've probed a little deeper. Don't get me wrong, I think Dylan as
> >genius is a fair description however all that stuff had to come from
> >somewhere.
> >
> If Douglas Clark is still here he can speak to this. I believe the term
> "genius" would apply. I would not argue with it
>
> >Come to think of it, there's no film of him reading,
> >prepping, re-editing. Just him typing away - he could be typing "one
> >jumped over the gate" 5 million times for all we know. All that stuff
> >just flowed out of him? Listening to "Mr Tambourine Man" now, it seems
> >polished, well-constructed, to have hard-labour poured into it, a
> >thousand edits...
> >
> >
> I saw him last night in a documentary about music and protest movements
> going back to the late 1950s. The music gets progressively shittier
> once you get out of the 70s. Or maybe I need a walker and an ear
> trumpet:-). Dylan in the documentary was doing an early music video of
> his "Subterranean Homesick Blues," one of the great songs of youth (or
> any) malaise I've ever heard. "Look out kid, don't matter whacha did,
> God knows when but you're doin' it again...." "Don't matter whatcha
> did." They (there is always a "they") will get you. Both a
> reasssurance and a feeling of Ugh.
>
> >I thought the best shots were of him in the taxi in England, shades
> >on, cornered. It feels like Pennebaker tuned in on the one who was the
> >lightning-rod at that time.
> >
> >
> You reminded me of "Don't Look Back," which I believe was about Dylan's
> tour of England in 1965(?). There was a moment there of cruelty because
> the recipient, Donovan Leitch, didn't appear to know he was being put on
> and played with by Dylan. Leitch had gone backstage to pay his respects
> (homage?) and Dylan seemed to double-talk and act dismissively.
> "Another Side of Bob Dylan," no kidding.
>
> Ken
>
> --
> Kenneth Wolman
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>


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