Perhaps you are right, Stephen. I think that it is more important for me to
tell you that I believe your heart is right, and to me it matters not at all
what your words say. Your heart is right. Let us try to pull ourselves
together. A lot of hard work needs to be done, and much of that work
involves deeply motivated people, like you, to continue what I know we began
many years ago, and that we are in a unique position to continue in this
most horrid moment of our country, and, quite frankly, our race.
Judy as serious as she gets
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Vincent" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: New Orleans Prisoners left to drown
> Nonsense Prince! This argument re the use of "refugee" is totally and
> currently in the public realm. Close as Fox, CNN, etc.
> Your magnanimous use of the word "colony" is curious - and I suspect would
> be a cause for fury, as well. It really diminishes the dynamic of racial
> relations in this country.
> "Trivial" this is not.
>
> Stephen V
>
>
>
>
>> Stephen,
>>
>> Black folks have always been a colony within this nation. It's no secret
>> to
>> them. I feel strongly that you need to jump back off the
>> denotation/contation debate for about four weeks, and then go on again
>> and
>> wrestle it down. I HEAR you, but it's not the week to deal with it. We
>> ain't linguistic dummies, you, me, Ken, and several other folks that have
>> been sitting in on history in America. I suggest that you do as you once
>> told me to do, "Go outside, take a break."
>>
>> Judy
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Stephen Vincent" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 1:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: New Orleans Prisoners left to drown
>>
>>
>>> Oh please. I cannot believe this discussion is even happening and that I
>>> involved myself in it. Of all the linguistic trivia I've run into, this
>>> tops all.
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>>
>>> "Trivia"?? Ken, I guess you have not been listening to the anger of
>>> African-Americans expressed in multiple places over the use of the term,
>>> "refugee." It's perceived/heard, as it should be, as a real insult -
>>> particularly by a people that have been in this country much much longer
>>> than a majority of our emigrant populations - including possibly your
>>> ancestors and most of my own - who probably at the point of arrival did
>>> not
>>> even then like being called "refugees" from whatever ill-force.
>>>
>>> In this case, I humbly suggest, "trivia" is an odd term, an odd refuge.
>>>
>>> Stephen V
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Stephen Vincent wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Refugee" connotes (denotes?) people seeking refuge from another
>>>>> country.
>>>>> These are American citizens (George W, his mother's views, and the
>>>>> "send
>>>>> them back to Africa" Confederate wing of the Republican Party not
>>>>> withstanding).
>>>>> "Evacuees" is the comfortable term.
>>>>> Get your sophisticated ear on, Ken!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Stephen V
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Oh please. I cannot believe this discussion is even happening and that
>>>> I
>>>> involved myself in it. Of all the linguistic trivia I've run into,
>>>> this
>>>> tops all.
>>>>
>>>> Ken
>>>
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