Joanna, she didn't say much of anything except to repeat that I had
plagiarized. She was VERY upset, and I think it doesn't help that I project
a weird external self, nose rings and purple hair and such. Older people
don't take you seriously when you do that, I've noticed. Or they get angry
right away even though you didn't do anything to them.
I love your idea about artists in all fields copying the "great Masters" (or
Mistresses, as the case may be). I can relate to that having seen the
paintings that show women, such as I think Mary Cassatt, but I'm not sure,
who were in the Louvre copying the Masters just like it was perfectly
respectable---which it was! And also the pome I had written previous to the
one I got an F on was---and I stated it right on the top of the
pome---"after the style of E.B. Browning". So when she got this latest
pome, maybe she combined the nose rings and purple hair with the "after EB
Browning" and sort of dumped all that onto my newest pome----and then she
just got angry I don't know why exactly. I am not an easy person to deal
with, Joanna, I confess that right up front. It is both a curse and a
blessing (for me as well as others).
I also love the part of your email which talks about the danger of getting
hung up on pseudo-Keats, and, further, the job of a teacher to make
available many varied kinds of pomes.
Do you realize how wonderful is the idea you proposed? Imagine if in our
lives we all were able to know many varied kinds of people and religions and
schools and careers and even yes even potential spouses. I think we'd be a
lot happier, don't you? It is happening right now to me because of this
wonderful beautiful Poetryetc!
Blessings and love,
Judy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joanna Boulter" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: "Fled is that Music. So Change the Record"
> Judy, did your teacher mean you had plagiarised an entire poem, which I
> cannot believe, or did she mean that your way of writing was not original?
> If that's it, I'd say plagiarised isn't the right term. Surely we all
> 'have a go' at various styles at different stages in our writing lives,
> more or less consciously trying them out -- it's how we develop our own
> voice and technique, and it's akin to copying the Great Masters at art
> school, or learning musical form by writing a set of variations in the
> style, say, of Mozart. Very few writers find their own original style
> springs up for them fully formed from the start. The danger is, that we
> get hung up on writing pseudo-Keats or whoever, and can't progress. I'd
> say it's your teacher's job to put some different examples in front of
> you!
>
> cheer up
>
> best joanna
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "judy prince" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 4:26 PM
> Subject: Re: "Fled is that Music. So Change the Record"
>
>
>> Not good news, Ken. By the way, I should have thanked you for taking me
>> seriously and giving all that explanation of your pome which made me
>> understand it very well.
>>
>> I'm sad now, and it has nothing to do with your pomes which I always like
>> very much. Actually my heart is broken. I'm holding the poem I got back
>> today in class. She gave me an F on it. She said it was plagiarized
>> which means copied. But why would I copy anything when I love to write
>> poetry?! I'm a sad person right now, K.
>>
>> J (I never was yo mama, but maybe you could be my papa right now)
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ken Wolman" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 10:49 AM
>> Subject: Re: "Fled is that Music. So Change the Record"
>>
>>
>>> judy prince wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gotcha, Ken! I mean, I NEVER woulda guest it, not never! Poets should
>>>> charge for this service---of explaining what the hell their pomes
>>>> mean---thereby making enuff cash to pay for, uh, yeah, ok, forgit this
>>>> . .
>>>
>>> Is it steady? Are there medical benefits? Do I get a company car and
>>> expensive account? I figure that for slinging that kind of junk I
>>> oughta get no more nor less than a life insurance salesman can ask for.
>>>
>>>> Howsomever, let's bring our intellects back to the kernel most
>>>> meaningful to moi and my sis/bro POMES FER DUMMIES classmates: 1) Y
>>>> don't poets know what their pomes mean? and 2) well, if U adequately
>>>> answer #1, then U don't need me to pose #2.
>>>
>>> I don't feel badly about this anymore--that I don't know what the hell
>>> most poems "mean." They mean something to me, they may mean something
>>> else to you, or him, or her. I THINK (bad practice) most poems want me
>>> to engage with them imaginatively. My imagination, not the writer's.
>>> If we meet each other, awesome. If not, we'll always have Paris:-).
>>>
>>>> I've been watching you a long time, K, at least a month now, and I
>>>> think you can well handle that one question.
>>>
>>> This is starting to sound like a song by The Police. "I'll Be Watching
>>> You"? I"m getting paranoid.:-)
>>>
>>> Ken <on the lam>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kenneth Wolman
>>> Proposal Development Department
>>> Room SW334
>>> Sarnoff Corporation
>>> 609-734-2538
>>>
>>
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