On Tue, 17 May 2005 16:32:56 +1000, Alison Croggon <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
>On 17/5/05 3:59 PM, "Robin Hamilton" <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
>
>>
>> What about the OT/NT split in this area? I don't see the NT as
particularly
>> condoning violence, anything but, even though violence has been
committed in
>> its name. But the same, of course, goes for the Koran.
>
>I'll go with Robin on this - as long as the NT is narrowed down to the
>Gospels (and maybe there's even some violence there - I seem to remember
>something about a wrathful God...) I could never come to terms with Paul,
>despite that wonderful passage about seeing through a glass darkly: that's
>where the rot really sets in.
I thought we had flogged this horse to death,
but here goes: 'wrathful God'..yes we are all
under the wrath of God,by ALL I mean every human-being
is under the judgement of God. Whether Islamic or Christian
we are all condemned. Now I am not going to say anything further.
>
>> Unless of course that belief system is one that condones
>> violence as a legitimate purpose. How anyone can believe
>> that Islam is supposed to be a peaceful religion is beyond me.
>
>Islam is precisely as peaceful as Christianity, in that it explicitly
>forbids violence, and has had much violence committed and justified in its
>name. (There's an awful lot of "in God's name" and "God is on our side"
>stuff going on in Iraq at present - from the US). You seem to forget all
the
>laying waste to mine enemies that goes on in the OT.
Yes,the OT is a very violent story,even God himself passed
judgement over his own people by using other nations to
wipe some of them out.
>
>And David, that kind of statement about Islam is precisely the kind of
thing
>I would like not to see on this list.
>
>Best
>
>A
>
> You are correct Alison.I do not need to make such a statement
when the facts speak for themselves.
Thankyou for pointing this out.
>
> Hyper-David.
>
>Alison Croggon
>
>Blog: http://theatrenotes.blogspot.com
>Editor, Masthead: http://masthead.net.au
>Home page: http://alisoncroggon.com
|