I don't even have that much Jill, although, yes, some Edinburgh way
back there. I always laugh when reading Leonard, though, even when I
don't quite get the all the sounds.
But it did help to read 'the spoiler'...
Doug
On 16-May-05, at 3:38 AM, Jill Jones wrote:
> Thanks Robin,
>
> I must be one of few non-Glaswegians on the list (my granny came from
> Edinburgh) but, though I pretty much got the drift of the original,
> this wee
> spoiler makes it clearer.
>
> Appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
> Jill
>
>
>> THE SIX GLASGOW POEMS IN "ENGLISH"
>>
>> (Tom Leonard included this note in his +Poems+ (1973). As far as I
>> know,
>> this is the only place it appears, and I suspect it was meant partly
>> as a
>> joke. R.)
>>
>> (1) THE GOOD THIEF: Hey Jimmy! Are you allright, eh? Still with us,
>> are you?
>> Eh? Hey Jimmy! Am I right in saying you're a Pape? Am I right in
>> saying
>> you're one of us, Jimmy? (One can) see it in your eyes - one of us.
>> Hey! Hey
>> Jimmy! (It) looks like we're going to miss the game. Going, to miss
>> the GAME
>> Jimmy! (Its) nearly three o'clock the now (just now). Dark, isn't it?
>> Good
>> job they've got the lights (i.e. floodlights).
>>
>> N.B. The author was brought up to believe that Christ died on the
>> cross
>> promptly at three p.m. on Good Friday. Three p.m. is also usually the
>> time
>> at which football matches start. In Glasgow, Catholics generally
>> support
>> Glasgow Celtic, while Protestants usually support Glasgow Rangers.
>> The Good
>> Thief is therefore assumed to be a Celtic supporter, who addresses
>> Christ
>> shortly before 3 o'clock, as darkness descends on the earth. The
>> reason for
>> assuming that the Good Thief was a Celtic supporter is because Christ
>> said
>> to him, "This night thou shalt be with me in Paradise" - and
>> "Paradise" is
>> the nickname for Celtic's football ground.
>>
>
>
Douglas Barbour
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There are places named for
other places, ones where
a word survives whatever happened
which it once referred to. And there are
names for the places water comes and touches.
But nothing for the whole.
Bill Manhire
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