Yes Sue. It is my website. I got chucked off the University website two
years ago and set up for myself.
Douglas Clark, Bath, Somerset, England ....
http://www.dgdclynx.plus.com
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From: "Sue Stanford" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: Hi and little magazines
> is that on your own website Douglas? so the ISP and domain registration
> etc
> is something you manage yourself?
>
> Sue
>
>
> At 09:18 PM 2/17/2005, you wrote:
>>One comment about Gerald's post. I have had all my work up on the Web for
>>over ten years now, adding fresh books and pamphlets as they have arrived.
>>It has made the difference between having thousands of readers and tens of
>>readers. I think it has been well worth doing. Resetting in HTML is
>>trivial.
>>An afternoon's work.
>>
>>Douglas Clark, Bath, Somerset, England ....
>>http://www.dgdclynx.plus.com
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Gerald England" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 8:58 AM
>>Subject: Re: Hi and little magazines
>>
>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Sue Stanford" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: "Gerald England" <[log in to unmask]>; "Poetryetc"
>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:36 AM
>>>Subject: Re: Hi and little magazines
>>>
>>>
>>>>Dear Gerald (and others),
>>>>
>>>>Thank you for your comments about the little magazines and the internet.
>>>>
>>>>My own thoughts are rather unformed...but this is where I am so far:
>>>>
>>>>I agree with you that it is easier to read poetry (or anything) on a
>>>>page
>>>>than on a screen. When it comes to many of the more established (but
>>>>still
>>>>in copyright) poets its quite hard to find more than a tiny sample of
>>>>their work through Google. I wonder if this is a trend that will
>>>>persist,
>>>>but certainly the little money there is to be made in publishing poetry
>>>>is
>>>>more likely to get into a poet's pocket if s/he through a book or more
>>>>'prestige' paper publication.
>>>
>>>Well I would hope so -- in the main -- if you could read ALL of a poet's
>>>work on the net then why bother buying their book?
>>>
>>>
>>>>On the other hand, it is much easier to get a first taste of a poet's
>>>>work
>>>>through the internet. I quite often read the poems on the Poetry Daily
>>>>site and when I am impressed go looking for more of a poet's work either
>>>>through Google or in a bookshop/Amazon.
>>>
>>>Wish there were more poetry buyers like you around.
>>>
>>>I've put a sample poem from each of the NHI publications on my Pickings
>>>section
>>>http://www.nhi.clara.net/pickings.htm
>>>partly in the hope that readers will discover a poem/poet and go on to
>>>buy
>>>the book/magazine.
>>>
>>>I suspect the number of people who've bought a book having done so is
>>>very
>>>very small, but one can only try these things and most small
>>>presses/magazines usually have a showcase side to their websites.
>>>
>>>Not many [Shearsman comes to mind for one] publish the same material both
>>>online and in print.
>>>
>>>
>>>>As far a publishing one's own work goes, the disadvantages of time and
>>>>typos that you mention in your article make the internet a good option.
>>>>Also one's poems stay available - anyone who likes one can look up more.
>>>>(This can be embarrassing, of course, if you have second thoughts about
>>>>a
>>>>poem:-)
>>>
>>>This may or may not be the case.
>>>Internet sites don't last for ever as rule
>>>many disappear after a year or two
>>>some because the editors re-use the pages
>>>some because they change their ISP or don't renew their domain
>>>registration.
>>>
>>>
>>>Publishing in little magazines usually means a small readership and
>>>>generally a once-only reading. And, realistically, not everyone reads
>>>>right through even the little magazines they subscribe to. Also a longer
>>>>poem is more likely to be published on the internet (where much less
>>>>risk
>>>>is involved for the editor). I guess that does not mean that it will
>>>>always be read right through :-)
>>>>
>>>>Little magazines seem more geographically grounded. They seem often to
>>>>reflect the work of a group of poets who do know one another face to
>>>>face - or who come to do so.
>>>
>>>The reason many magazines are geographically grounded as you put it
>>>is often linked to the ways things are funded.
>>>
>>>If you are publishing local writers you can get local or regional funding
>>>because you are "doing something to promote the locality"
>>>
>>>I was told many years ago when I first starting editing a magazine
>>>that if I restricted my contributors mainly to the local region, I could
>>>have funding
>>>but by not doing so I wasn't a "local" publisher
>>>and I couldn't possibly be a national [let alone international] publisher
>>>since I wasn't based in London!
>>>
>>>
>>>Sometimes it can be quite a clicky even exclusive
>>>>thing - which has its good points as well as bad. (This can be true of
>>>>internet publications, too, I know.) But I've got to know the work of
>>>>quite of few of my fellow 'emerging Australian poets' though the small
>>>>magazines that are published here. I don't have the money to subscribe
>>>>to
>>>>all of them at once - but do try to rotate subscriptions or at least
>>>>read
>>>>issues through libraries or complimentary copies. Of course, I can also
>>>>(eventually) hear the work of many of these people at readings.
>>>>Listening
>>>>to someone's work can make you want to read more and visa versa. So the
>>>>little magazine functions to make a local poetry community more
>>>>cohesive.
>>>>The points of contact with people who also publish with the same
>>>>internet
>>>>magazines are limited. (Except if you share a mailing list. Even then,
>>>>my
>>>>limited experience suggests that apparently quite intense friendships
>>>>will
>>>>not persist without the mailing list.)
>>>
>>>
>>>I'd have to refute that last statement -- I've met a number of people via
>>>mailing lists and have maintained good links and friendships with them
>>>outside of the mailing list which originally introduced us.
>>>
>>>>Then again, this face-to-face community can seem limited at times. The
>>>>difficulty of 'success' when it's hard to get into print and
>>>>particularly
>>>>to get a book published makes for cross currents of rivalry, even
>>>>jealousy. Sometimes even friendly support can be a bit stifling! I want
>>>>to
>>>>get out and read different kinds of things. I want to try a different
>>>>audience. And - I have to admit - I want to get some damn poems out
>>>>there!
>>>>Then the internet is great!
>>>>
>>>>I have subscribed to American and British little magazines, but only
>>>>when
>>>>strongly recommended by friends or because of special interest reasons.
>>>>(I
>>>>see you are interested in haiku. I am too, and have subscribed to
>>>>FROGPOND, MODERN HAIKU etc.) But I am far, far less likely to subscribe
>>>>to a small overseas magazine. These days with THE HERON'S NEST, SIMPLY
>>>>HAIKU etc I find I am no longer much interested in the little haiku
>>>>mags.
>>>
>>>
>>>Do try some of the Australian/NZ haiku magazines!
>>>
>>>>What do others think?
>>>>
>>>>best, Sue
>>>
>>>yours
>>>
>>>Gerald England
>>>New Hope International, Haiku Talk
>>>reviews, poetry. travel photography and more
>>>http://www.nhi.clara.net/index.htm
>>>
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