Hi Ryan
they can be fitted to existing systems with no problem. and your friend
could take the gym to court for using their failure as an excuse to keep
her out.
Regards
Dave
Ryan, Justin wrote:
>I know of a deaf person who was recently refused to be able to join the health club attached to her work because she would not be able to hear the fire alarms when she was taking a shower! She took this without too much fuss, I guess because she may have been glad of the excuse! But I thought it was out of order but had not heard of these 'strobe' lights for fire alarms. Can they be fitted to existing alarm systems or do they have to be special alarm systems. I would like to suggest it to her, as xmas is coming and she might want to join the gym after xmas!
>
>Kind Regards
>
>Justin Ryan
>Accessibility and Inclusion Manager
>South Eastern Trains,
>Floor 3, Friars Bridge Court,
>41-45 Blackfriars Road,
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>
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>F. 020 7620 5547
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Accessibuilt list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
>Dorothy Wilson
>Sent: 24 November 2005 09:19
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Education
>
>
>Thanks Glynn,
>The pager system you have installed, which one is that and what is your
>feedback on the sytem's effectiveness/ease of use?
>Dorothy
>
>
>Glynn Williams (23/11/2005 17:06):
>
>
>>Dear Dorothy.
>>
>>Pagers-v-Signal Lamps
>>
>>At this University we have installed a fire-paging sytem to many
>>buildings. It does involve the hearing impaired person wearing a pager
>>and it is better therefore if you know who your deaf people are, to be
>>able to issue pagers to them.
>>
>>Student are adults and generaly remember to take their pagers with them
>>when they visit our buildings. Children might not be so good at
>>remembering or might loose them in the rough and tumble of school life.
>>I always used to loose things at school but maybe some children are very
>>careful and look after their things really well.
>>
>>Strobe lighting (assuming you mean the type that comes with a fire alarm
>>and is designed not to trigger fits in vulnerable people)is good because
>>in very noisy places and in places like swimming pools, wearing a pager
>>is impractical, visual alarms are effective. They can be good in
>>auditoriums and theatres where there might be amplified noise etc and
>>maybe dimmed out lighting. Signal lighting can be very effective in
>>these environments and it does not involve having to issue a pager.
>>
>>So visual alarms could be easier to manage in places where you get a lot
>>of unplanned visitors, say like an art gallery or entertainments centre
>>where it would be more difficult to know who might need to use a pager
>>and saves the hassle of people going home with their loaned pagers and
>>forgetting to give them back. Pagers of the special type needed for fire
>>alerting are usually more expensive than the ordinary type!!
>>
>>Basically one needs to see where the risk is and pick the most
>>appropriate system. Pager systems to retro-fit to existing buildings can
>>be far more economical than lights unless one is re-equipping the
>>building with a new state of the art fire alarm, in which case the
>>specification might be upped at reasonable cost to include warning
>>neons.Some fire alarm companies products can be cheaper than others in
>>this respect if specifying as original equipment.
>>
>>Pagers have the advantage that they can also convey simple messages
>>(text) so can also be used to deliver additional information to staff
>>(if you pick on a more sphisticated sytem) which of course is not easy
>>to do with lights. Pagers can if you choose the right system can be
>>designed to do other things as well, say to alert staff to other
>>incedents etc if one is prepared to pay the difference to upgrade the
>>spec'. I hope this helps, feel free to phone me if you wanted to discuss
>>further. 0114-2229209.
>>
>>G.D.Williams
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Accessibuilt list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
>>Of Dorothy Wilson
>>Sent: 23 November 2005 16:24
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: [ACCESSIBUILT] Education
>>
>>
>>Would anyone have any feedback on the effectiveness of DeafAlerter
>>system in schools, or other systems tried and tested in school
>>environments to serve the needs of staff, pupils and visitors. Also
>>value of strobes in fire detection systems in a school setting. Thanks
>>in anticipation. Dorothy
>>
>>
>>Croft Consultants (30/10/2005 11:35):
>>
>>
>>>http://www.dfes.gov.uk/consultations/
>>>
>>>
>>> Draft Standards for SEN Support and Outreach Services
>>>
>>><http://www.dfes.gov.uk/consultations/conDetails.cfm?consultationId=13
>>>75>
>>>
>>>This consultation is intended to contribute to the development of
>>>quality standards for SEN Support and Outreach Services with a strong
>>>focus on strengthening inclusion. The standards would apply to all SEN
>>>advisory and support services, however they are provided, including
>>>outreach provided by special and mainstream schools. The standards
>>>could also be used for evaluating voluntary sector services.
>>>
>>>*Launch Date:* 24 Oct 2005
>>>*Closing Date:* 27 Jan 2006
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>>>
>>> Consultation on the Disability Discrimination Act 1995
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>>>09>
>>>
>>>These new regulations are being introduced to update the Disability
>>>Discrimination Act (1995) and ensure that it is in line with EU
>>>Directives on Disability Discrimination for employment and Vocational
>>>Training
>>>
>>>*Launch Date:* 05 Oct 2005
>>>*Closing Date:* 30 Dec 2005
>>>
>>>
>>> New Fire Safety Guidance for Schools
>>>
>>><http://www.dfes.gov.uk/consultations/conDetails.cfm?consultationId=13
>>>58>
>>>
>>>This guidance covers all schools maintained by local education
>>>authorities (LEAs) in England and Wales, and also provides useful
>>>advice for independent schools. It shows how, through good design and
>>>management, to reduce the risk of fires occurring in schools and, when
>>>a fire does occur, how to reduce the risk of it spreading. Because a
>>>fire can have a serious impact on children's education, due to
>>>disruption and loss of course work, it gives advice on property
>>>protection as well as on life safety issues.
>>>
>>>*Launch Date:* 01 Aug 2005
>>>*Closing Date:* 18 Nov 2005
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