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Subject:

Re: Accessible saunas and steam rooms

From:

John Gregory <[log in to unmask]>

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Accessibuilt list <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:16:10 +0100

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Hi Marcus,

One of the big problems, and I suppose dangers, for blind users of saunas is
the ability to apply the scented water on the element.  Problematic in that
one does not know exactly where the element is, and dangerous because of the
heat.  Perhaps some form of applicator (fixed funnel/shute) be designed so
that the water is conducted toward the element without having to pour it on
directly.

John Gregory
Access Officer
Cherwell District Council
Tel. 01295 221630
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		-----Original Message-----
		From:	Marcus Ormerod [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
		Sent:	21 June 2005 11:49
		To:	[log in to unmask]
		Subject:	Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] Accessible saunas and
steam rooms

		Hi Helen

		Thanks for the input and know what you mean about the
trickiness of
		retrofitting as I have been to look at an existing
installation to get an
		initial impression of the issues. The threshold on the one I
viewed was not
		as much a problem but this may be because they are
positioned near to the
		pool side and the whole area is tanked. The issue of being
left in the room
		since wheelchairs, crutches etc will be taken out of the
room by an
		attendant is a concern I already had and the emergency call
facility would
		help. As you say height of benching and transfer space is
most certainly
		something that needs bringing in. Grab rails are another
tricky item as
		where do you put them in a confined box so that they are
useful but do not
		restrict the space?

		In the steam room the problem seems to be everything being
white with poor
		visibility anyway because of all the steam - guess getting
rid of the steam
		may not be a good solution though! But increasing tonal
contrast may be a
		possibility if we can get material that does not wear out in
these
		conditions too quickly.

		-----Original Message-----
		From: Accessibuilt list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of
		helen
		Sent: 21 June 2005 11:26
		To: [log in to unmask]
		Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] Accessible saunas and steam
rooms


		Hi Marcus  - the only time I got involved with something
like this was to
		retro-fit improvements to an existing sauna (tricky!) which
involved
		widening the door, lowering the vision panel, and installing
portable timber
		ramped access either side over the threshold (as they are
'tanked' rooms!),
		increasing the circulation space, ensuring the bench for
transferring to was
		the right height with an emergency/service call pull cord
plus visual fire
		alarm etc. But metal gets hot in a sauna so wheelchair
ideally needs to be
		removed following transfer and then called back when needed.
The other
		option (if possible) is the purchase a chair to transfer
with no metal parts
		- e.g. there are plastic wheelchairs on the market suitable
for the sea and
		beach that can go in water. They look ridiculous but won't
get hot!
		Unfortunately I have not seen reclining ones though. I have
also worked more
		recently on Turkish steam rooms where the problem was the
need to plunge
		into the cold bath quickly as part of the process.
Discussions were held as
		to whether we should have a hoist for the cold plunge pool
but there were
		concerns over other health and safety issues (heart attacks
for one) and the
		need remove someone quickly so we opted for cold showers as
an additional
		facility.

		Hope that helps.
		Best regards

		Helen Allen

		HADA Ltd
		79 Boyton Road
		London
		N8 7AE
		t/f: +44 (0) 20 8340 1990
		Mobile: 07766 815 554
		www.hada.co.uk <http://www.hada.co.uk>


		-----Original Message-----
		From: Accessibuilt list
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
		marcus ormerod
		Sent: 21 June 2005 11:05
		To: [log in to unmask]
		Subject: [ACCESSIBUILT] Accessible saunas and steam rooms


		Hi all

		I am undertaking a small research project on what would
improve the
		accessibility of saunas and steam rooms. I wondered if
anyone on the list
		had experience of this that they may be willing to share.
The results of the
		research will be made available to those interested.

		The sauna type is a kit type being fitted into a public
leisure centre - we
		hope to that what we find out may influence the product
supplier in future
		work. The steam room is similarly fitted out with a kit of
parts.

		Looking forward to some useful advice.

		Regards
		Marcus

		Marcus Ormerod MRICS NRAC Access Consultant
		SURFACE Inclusive Design Research Centre
		The University of Salford
		Bridgewater Building
		Salford, UK
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		Fax +44 (0)161 295 5011
		Minicom +44 (0)161 295 3194
		Web http://www.inclusive-design.it
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