Hi John,
I believe that the Millenium Centre in Cardiff may have changing facilities
in its accessible loos as Trevor Palmer was involved in the group discussing
its design.
Vin
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From: "John Rainey" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] Penninsular wc's
> Hi Gwinne,
>
> The Lack of public changing facilities for adults was brought to my
> attention about a year ago. A local MP contacted this authority wanting us
> to provide one in our town centres. I have produced a floorplan for a WC
> changing facility with a cantilever changing bench but it has not been
tried
> and tested yet. We are looking to put such a facility in one of our town
> centres. the changing bench will be powered so that it can rise and fall
to
> make transferring from wheelchair to bench and back easier. I feel this is
a
> better option than a mobile hoist for many reasons.
> I do not know of any public WC changing facility in existence or another
> floorplan design.
>
> John Rainey
> Access Officer
>
> >From: "Gwynne, Mary" <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: Accessibuilt list <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: John Rainey <[log in to unmask]>
> >Subject: Re: Penninsular wc's
> >Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 09:15:15 -0000
> >
> >It has been suggested to our Council that the basic design for an
> >accessible
> >toilet should include an adult changing bed.
> >Currently we have people that cannot shop or use other facilities in the
> >area because of the lack of changing beds. Some people 'toilet' in their
> >vehicle. If they did not do this they would be unable to leave their
home.
> >Does anyone have a good design of a fully accessible toilet that includes
> >an
> >adult changing bed? What are other peoples views on this?
> >Regards
> >Mary Gwynne
> >Policy Development Officer(Access)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > > From: Julienne Hanson[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Reply To: Accessibuilt list
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 04:32
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] Penninsular wc's
> > >
> > > Dear Orla, Hi! I'm a University Professor at UCL and the Principal
> > > Investigator on an EPSRC funded project to look at the inclusive
design
> >of
> > > public (away from home) toilets in city centres. We are 18 months into
> >the
> > > project. We are working with many, many different user groups to find
> >out
> > > what they each needs from an 'accessible toilet'. People's
requirements
> > > vary hugely, so we are producing 'personas' to tell a narrative of
what
> >is
> > > needed by each user group to make a toilet accessible for them and
also
> > > the personas explain why the loo needs to be designed that way. Most
> > > people don't know what actually goes on 'behind the toilet door',
other
> > > than their own toileting practices, so they can't really understand or
> >be
> > > expected to understand how the various bits of kit are used by real
> >human
> > > beings. Part of our project is to explain all of this so that
ddesigners
> > > and providers can appreciate users' perspectives.
> > >
> > >
> > > Many of our partner organisations are self-help groups for people who
> >have
> > > a physical, sensory or cognitive impairments, but we have drawn our
> > > contributors inclusively so parents with babies, children, older
people,
> > > ethnic minorities, care workers and many other groups are included. My
> > > research fellow, Jo-Anne Bichard ([log in to unmask]) will be able to
> > > fill you in on what she is doing, but please not this week or next, as
> >we
> > > have some Japanese visitors coming for a week-long study tour of good
> > > practice in the design of UK toilets at the weekend, and she is
working
> > > flat out to make that run smoothly, which is why I'm replying. We have
> > > published quite extenisvely, but please contact Jo-Anne for a list of
> > > references.
> > >
> > >
> > > We do have the evidence to support the fact that the peninsular unit
is
> > > only suitable for people who have a carer or carers to assist. The
> >island
> > > arrangement does not give sufficient support for many unassisted users
> >to
> > > manage, without feeling unsteady or actually falling off the loo. It
is
> > > not possible to reach the wash basin while seated on the loo either,
> >which
> > > a fair number of users need to be able to do to clean themselves. And,
> >as
> > > Vin (who replied ahead of me) has suggested, the corner arrangement
> >should
> > > mean that everything is reachable from the loo for a wheelchair user,
> > > provided the fittings are correctly positioned, which most times they
> >are
> > > not.
> > >
> > >
> > > There is no optimum arrangement. About this I am now clear. Please
some
> > > users and others will find themselves excluded. For the 'smallest
room'
> > > its a fiendishly difficult design problem. (I'm an architect by
> > > profession, by the way). If you have only room for one solution, I
> > > recommend that you use the universal WC compartment in the Centre for
> > > Accessible Environment's Good Loo Design Guide, 2004 edition, p 27.
Its
> > > the nearest thing to optimal, though it still won't suit everyone. We
> >may
> > > come up with something better by the end of the project, but we've
> >another
> > > 18 months to run, so 'watch this space'. I hope this helps. Best
> >Regards,
> > > Julienne
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