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Subject:

Re: Penninsular wc's

From:

John Rainey <[log in to unmask]>

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Accessibuilt list <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:09:00 +0000

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Hi Gwinne,

The Lack of public changing facilities for adults was brought to my
attention about a year ago. A local MP contacted this authority wanting us
to provide one in our town centres. I have produced a floorplan for a WC
changing facility with a cantilever changing bench but it has not been tried
and tested yet. We are looking to put such a facility in one of our town
centres. the changing bench will be powered so that it can rise and fall to
make transferring from wheelchair to bench and back easier. I feel this is a
better option than a mobile hoist for many reasons.
I do not know of any public WC changing facility in existence or another
floorplan design.

John Rainey
Access Officer

>From: "Gwynne, Mary" <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Accessibuilt list <[log in to unmask]>
>To: John Rainey <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Penninsular wc's
>Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 09:15:15 -0000
>
>It has been suggested to our Council that the basic design for an
>accessible
>toilet should include an adult changing bed.
>Currently we have people that cannot shop or use other facilities in the
>area because of the lack of changing beds.  Some people 'toilet' in their
>vehicle. If they did not do this they would be unable to leave their home.
>Does anyone have a good design of a fully accessible toilet that includes
>an
>adult changing bed? What are other peoples views on this?
>Regards
>Mary Gwynne
>Policy Development Officer(Access)
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> > From:         Julienne Hanson[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Reply To:     Accessibuilt list
> > Sent:         Thursday, January 06, 2005 04:32
> > To:   [log in to unmask]
> > Subject:      Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] Penninsular wc's
> >
> > Dear Orla, Hi! I'm a University Professor at UCL and the Principal
> > Investigator on an EPSRC funded project to look at the inclusive design
>of
> > public (away from home) toilets in city centres. We are 18 months into
>the
> > project. We are working with many, many different user groups to find
>out
> > what they each needs from an 'accessible toilet'. People's requirements
> > vary hugely, so we are producing 'personas' to tell a narrative of what
>is
> > needed by each user group to make a toilet accessible for them and also
> > the personas explain why the loo needs to be designed that way. Most
> > people don't know what actually goes on 'behind the toilet door', other
> > than their own toileting practices, so they can't really understand or
>be
> > expected to understand how the various bits of kit are used by real
>human
> > beings. Part of our project is to explain all of this so that ddesigners
> > and providers can appreciate users' perspectives.
> >
> >
> > Many of our partner organisations are self-help groups for people who
>have
> > a physical, sensory or cognitive impairments, but we have drawn our
> > contributors inclusively so parents with babies, children, older people,
> > ethnic minorities, care workers and many other groups are included. My
> > research fellow, Jo-Anne Bichard ([log in to unmask]) will be able to
> > fill you in on what she is doing, but please not this week or next, as
>we
> > have some Japanese visitors coming for a week-long study tour of good
> > practice in the design of UK toilets at the weekend, and she is working
> > flat out to make that run smoothly, which is why I'm replying. We have
> > published quite extenisvely, but please contact Jo-Anne for a list of
> > references.
> >
> >
> > We do have the evidence to support the fact that the peninsular unit is
> > only suitable for people who have a carer or carers to assist. The
>island
> > arrangement does not give sufficient support for many unassisted users
>to
> > manage, without feeling unsteady or actually falling off the loo. It is
> > not possible to reach the wash basin while seated on the loo either,
>which
> > a fair number of users need to be able to do to clean themselves. And,
>as
> > Vin (who replied ahead of me) has suggested, the corner arrangement
>should
> > mean that everything is reachable from the loo for a wheelchair user,
> > provided the fittings are correctly positioned, which most times they
>are
> > not.
> >
> >
> > There is no optimum arrangement. About this I am now clear. Please some
> > users and others will find themselves excluded.  For the 'smallest room'
> > its a fiendishly difficult design problem. (I'm an architect by
> > profession, by the way). If you have only room for one solution, I
> > recommend that you use the universal WC compartment in the Centre for
> > Accessible Environment's Good Loo Design Guide, 2004 edition, p 27. Its
> > the nearest thing to optimal, though it still won't suit everyone. We
>may
> > come up with something better by the end of the project, but we've
>another
> > 18 months to run, so 'watch this space'. I hope this helps. Best
>Regards,
> > Julienne
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> >
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> > visit:
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> > http://www.inclusive-design.it
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> > Archives for the Accessibuilt discussion list are located at
> > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/accessibuilt.html
> >
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