Yes I guess so.
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> is that the point at which it's time for collective rather than individual
> action....
>
> p
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> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of pennypriest
> Sent: 18 November 2004 16:37
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> I have not yet received any reply, apart from the usual post card
> acknowledgement (for this and the draft MH bill - although I received an
> email about the latter). It worries me that my MP will just consider these
> things as junk mail if I write too often. I feel like I am slipping wildly
> between passion and paralysis...
> Penny
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> From: "Paul@home" <[log in to unmask]>
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> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 1:18 PM
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> After I wrote to my MP (Tom Levitt - Labour) stating my concern over the
> civilian deaths in Iraq following the report in the Lancet that estimated
> there to be 98,000 civilian deaths, he replied stating that he had more
> confidence in the figures reported on web sites than in the academic paper
> published in a peer reviewed medical journal ... interesting.... He's
exact
> words are:
>
> "This report has to be put in context. Over the last 12 months there have
> been a number of websites, updated daily, by those who oppose the war.
These
> websites have claimed to have authoritative figures on the number of dead
> and wounded. By and large, it is the view of those websites that the
actual
> figures is around 30,000. The 'official' figures, based on the actual
number
> of deaths and injuries reported to actual hospitals and medical facilities
> throughout Iraq is half that number, around 15,000. I am inclined to
> discount The Lancet figure, which is the only survey which has reached a
> figure of anything like that number."
>
> Has anyone else had any similar bilge come through their letter box after
> writing to their MP? If you do, I recommend you reply asking for the
> government to release all the data collected by the military that they
have
> on civilian deaths in Iraq since March 2003.
>
> Incidentally, you can find websites that report the Jewish Holocaust never
> happened, should we believe those sites too?
>
> Here is a paragraph from a paper I have submitted to a US CP journal
>
> "The first scientific survey of civilian deaths in Iraq since the
beginning
> of the military action by coalition forces in March 2003 was recently
> published in The Lancet (Roberts et al., 2004). The survey reported 100
000
> excess deaths or more had occurred since the 2003 invasion of Iraq with
> violence accounting for a majority of those deaths and with over half of
> those who had died violently being women and children. An author of the
> study, Dr Les Roberts of Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
in
> Baltimore, stated this to be a rather conservative figure and that the
death
> toll could be considerably higher. Unsurprisingly, the Pentagon in the USA
> and Downing Street in the UK were quick in their attempts to discredit the
> survey. However, previously the total death toll (civilians and
combatants)
> of the 'war on Iraq' between March 20th and October 20th in 2003 was
> estimated to be between 21,700 and 55,000 (MEDACT, 2003). Thus, such death
> toll figures are not without precedent."
>
> MEDACT (2003). Continuing collateral damage: The health and environmental
> costs of war on Iraq. MEDACT. Retrieved from http://www.medact.org.
>
>
> p
>
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> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Mark Burton
> Sent: 17 November 2004 18:05
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> From: "Ignacio" <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Wed, November 17, 2004 3:29 am
> To: "Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@cariari.ucr.ac.cr
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>
> En blanco
>
>
>
>
> --
> From Mark Burton
> Manchester UK
>
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