I appreciate Bob's draft and like Paul's suggested additions however I feel
uncomfortable with the idea of this message being sent on behalf of all at
the conference as I doubt anybody currently has the authority to speak on
behalf of the all those assembled (this was one of my points in the final
session and one reason why why we need a more formal cp structure with
efficient and accountable decision processes). I imagine we are mostly in
agreement with the letter on this issue but I would not want a precedent
where a group at a future conference sent a letter on behalf of the whole UK
CPN which I had not had a chance to consider and express a view on (if I
could not attend etc.) Moreover who went to the conference some were not
there when the matter was discussed, there was no formal move to adopt a
resolution of equivalent and it may have been quite hard to speak out
against it given the consensus groundswell? It might even also be that the
letter would have more authority if it listed individual signatories with
their various affiliations than if sent by an anonymous group of which few
have heard? Personally, I would like to reflect on the draft a bit more (I
am tied up in perpetual meetings til Thursday) but I anticipate sending a
version of the letter myself and also being able to put my name to a multi
signature letter by the end of the week if one were being sent.
David
David Fryer
Community Psychology Group
University of Stirling
FK9 4LA
Scotland
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From: Jo Rowland [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 26 October 2004 1:08 pm
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Subject: Re: comments on draft MH bill- must be submitted this week
Hi Bob,
I echo all of the previous messages. If you are signing names feel free to
add mine to the collective letter. However I wonder if the suggestion of
sending it as the collective motion from the conference is more powerful
becuase with the little time peope have to reply to you you may not be able
to put may specific names on the letter, but you were given the authority at
the conference to act on behalf of those there.
I will also send my own copies as you suggest.
Jo
Jo Rowland
Trainee Clinical and Community Psychologist
University of Exeter
>===== Original Message From The UK Community Psychology Discussion List
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>Hi Bob,
>Thanks for putting this together. I will send something individually as
>you suggest, but I would also be more than happy for you to add my name
>to a collective letter if you decide to do this. Jo Everill
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: amitchel [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: 25 October 2004 12:21
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: comments on draft MH bill- must be submitted this week
>
>
>>Hi Bob,
>
>Many thanks for doing this for us. My sense was at the conference that
>those of us present at the end when we discussed this would like this
>to go from us
>collectively if possible. I realise that this is difficult as we were not
>all
>there at the end, that conference attenders ( nor discussion list members)
>are
>not in any sense a representative group of community psychologists, because
>we
>cannot all see the letter and comment in time to change it if we wished to
>do
>so, and in any case because community psychologists have no collective
>identity in any formal sense. Nevertheless the feeling at the conference
>was
>that a message of this kind from us collectively, as well as us all doing
>something individually would be more powerful . Bob, do you feel you could
>send this on behalf of some of us: say for example as a resolution passed
at
>the tenth national UK community psychology conference?
>
>I will in any case send it to the pople suggested, as well as my local
>MP.
>
>Thanks, Annie
> ===== Original Message From The UK Community Psychology Discussion List
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>> Please find attached a draft letter that I have put together and I
>> invite
>you to use or make your changes to and then send to the scrutiny
>committee, House of Commons (details below). All responses must be
>within the committee by the end of October.
>>
>> I would urge everyone to write to both their MP and also to the
>> srutiny
>committee, this can be done as follows:
>>
>> Written evidence should be sent, if possible, in MS Word or rich text
>format, to [log in to unmask] (put Mental Health in the subject
>line of your email).
>>
>>A single paper version (single-sided, unbound) should also be sent to:
>>Richard Dawson (Draft Mental Health Bill)
>>Committee Office Scrutiny Unit
>>House of Common
>>London SW1A 0PW
>>
>>
>>
>>
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