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The Annals of Friar John Clyn can be found in Annales Hibernicae, James
Grace, ed. R. Butler, (Ir. Arch. Soc. Dublin,1842).
The reference to the well is on page 35 of the annals and the well is called
Thaht - Molyngis
Item, hoc anno et maxime mense Septembri et Octobri convenerunt undique de
diversis partibus Hibernie, episcopi et prelati, viri ec¬clesiastici et
religiosi, magnates et alii, et comuniter omnes utriusque sexus ad
peregrinacionem et vadacionem aque de Thaht-Molyngis , turmatim et in
multi¬tudine, sic ut multa milia hominum simul illuc multis diebus convenire
videres, quidam venerunt devocionis affectu, alii (sed plures) pestilencie
metu
I am at present working on a new edition of the annals
Bernadette Williams
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Could you please provide a bibliographic reference for this?
Thanks!
Meg
I do not know if this is of any interest but in 1348 the Franciscan friar
John Clyn of Kilkenny in Ireland had this to say
Item, during this year and especially the months of September and October,
bishops and prelates, men of the church and of religion, magnates and others
and commonly all persons of both sexes, gathered from all sides of diverse
parts of Ireland, to the pilgrimage and the wading in the water of St
Mullins, in crowds and in multitudes, so much so that you could see many
thousands of men converging at the same time in those days, some came from
feelings of devotion, others, (the majority), from dread of the plague which
was then raging,
Bernadette Williams
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Jim -
are you perchance collecting information about holy wells etc.? I,
and probably other list members, would appreciate any bibliography
you could provide.
Meg
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> Sequanus (Seine) (d. c. 580) Sequanus sounds suspiciously like a
> pre-Christian river god, reduced to human status.
As you say, Phyllis, undoubtedly a case of euhemerization. Although studies
of holy
wells and springs have been made, they were so ubiquitous that I can't help
thinking
that their presence in medieval religion has been greatly underestimated.
There
were lots of local saints' shrines that featured miraculous water sources,
and
hundreds of such Marian shrines. I am currently becoming more au fait with
Byzantine pilgrimage sites, and the same phenomenon is widely disseminated
in
the eastern Mediterranean, as well. And as Peter Opie, past president of
the
Folklore Society, has observed, one cannot observe any contained body of
water --
e.g. a fountain in any suburban shopping mall -- without seeing votive
sacrifices, in
terms of smallish coins, made in plenty, even though, I am sure, the people
that
made them do not consider themselves adherents of ancient, pre-Christian
religions. This is a phenomenon that deserves far more serious study.
Cheers,
Jim Bugslag
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