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Subject:

Re: Origins of Autism; what causes the condition to wax and wane?

From:

ColRevs <[log in to unmask]>

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ColRevs <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 22 Aug 2004 15:44:50 +0100

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Larry

I agree with nearly everything you said. None of us have the 'real-answers',
it all hypothesises, but the 'reality' is that the are dominant ideologies
and discourses, in which allows treatments and therapies to be used on
neurodiverse individuals,  so like 'pick and mix' in the sweet shop, then
which one do we all choose that is not going to cause us harm?

Who do we trust? The medical model of psychiatry/psychology or alternative
and complimentary methods?

Regards

Colin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Arnold" <[log in to unmask]>
To: "ColRevs" <[log in to unmask]>;
<[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 3:20 PM
Subject: RE: Origins of Autism; what causes the condition to wax and wane?


> We are what we are, not objects of pity or subjects to be cured but
> individuals who have a right to share in the fullness of what the erth has
> to offer,
>
> We are partly  made by our genes, and then partly by the interactions and
> synchronicity of the human and physical environment, all is interactive
and
> very very complicated.
>
> We are what we are, but what we are considered to be is governed both by
how
> we manifest ourselves and by the way that varios memes are constructed
> around us.
>
> All we can do with each hypothesis is look at critically and always go for
> the null hypothesis.
>
> A scientific fact is not something which can be verified, it can never be
> that objective, but something that can be subjected to the test of finding
> the null hypothesis, and standing only for as long as that null hypothesis
> has not been found.
>
> Some like Hegel, and the dialectic others maybe not.
>
> We cannot think  construct theries outside of the physical box we are in,
we
> are trapped in the relativity of language and its relation to our
cognitive
> funtion. We are four dimensional beings stuck with serial communication,
we
> cannot know truly what we are until we have been everything that we will
be,
> that is the sum of our existance, and all the changes and contradictions
> over time, because as I say we can only be described in any one time by
the
> terms and theries that exist at that time, only later can we
retrospectively
> apply new knowledge.
>
> paradigms are constantly shifting, but too many ideologies and theries are
> made and spread out of a conscios desire to make thing fit a pre existing
> bias not examine whehter they really do or not.
>
> You are trapped in your thinking, it logically follows I am trapped in
mine.
> I do myself no service by not believing I am right, but I want to arrive
at
> that belief through some sort of critical rationality not blind acceptance
> of all that glisters being gold, that is to say, believing the product
> because the package looks good.
>
> The internet has unfortunately allowed many half qualified and biased
people
> to put together what looks like acceptable thery, but just because a
> publisher will issue a book, or even a university will fund it, does not
> make it correct or real.
>
> There is not one solid world of fact and most of the things you post to
tend
> to contradict each other, notwithstanding they are usually put together by
> people on a monomaniacal rant who would not give any space to any other
> thery either.
>
> Larry
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ColRevs [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: 22 August 2004 15:15
> > To: [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Origins of Autism; what causes the condition to wax and
> > wane?
> >
> >
> > So, Larry
> >
> > You tell me what is your theory and causes of ASD's and SpLd's ?
> >
> > Why are so may of us being diagnosed with 'neurodiverse'
> > impairments/conditions?
> >
> > You don't like the word impairment or conditions, so what are we left
with
> > then?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Colin
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Larry Arnold" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: "ColRevs" <[log in to unmask]>;
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 2:42 PM
> > Subject: RE: Origins of Autism; what causes the condition to wax and
wane?
> >
> >
> > > And does a good resercher point uncritically for instance to a website
> > > perpetuating the protocols of the lerned elders of Zion bullshit ?
> > >
> > > You are deluding yourself Colin. Believe what you want, but you are
not
> > > helping the cause of Autistic Autonomy here. We need to combat
Bullshit
> > not
> > > uncritically accept it because it suits some wooly "new age thinking"
or
> > > some medical agenda or whatever bias it comes from.
> > >
> > > All web sites are "political" and sometimes you are only
> > helping to spread
> > > mythology. Sometimes you have to take sides.
> > >
> > > Larry
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: The Disability-Research Discussion List
> > > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of ColRevs
> > > > Sent: 22 August 2004 14:12
> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > Subject: Re: Origins of Autism; what causes the condition to wax and
> > > > wane?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Larry
> > > >
> > > > A good 'objective' researcher does not suppress any research
> > > > theories.  How
> > > > do we learn if ewe suppress research. Do you want to suppress all
> > research
> > > > Larry. just like within a dictatorship, eg Nazism 'propaganda'.
> > > >
> > > > Larry, as I said to you before, none of 'us' no
> > 'the-truths', there are
> > > > many different theories and everyone has the basic human and
> > > > civil rights to
> > > > read all research and make up the 'own' 'informed-opinions'.
> > > >
> > > > That is not 'bullshit', that allowing humans to feel empowered and
not
> > be
> > > > patronised and be told what to, or not to read. This is how
democracy
> > > > functions mate.
> > > >
> > > > As I said you have the basic human and civil right to your
> > opinions, but
> > > > respects others too....
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Colin
> > > > You can JOIN or LEAVE the list from this web page.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>

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