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Ad Hoc UN Convention on Disability Rights - 26th May summary

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Ad Hoc Committee Daily Summary
UN Convention on the Rights of People with Disabilities
A service made possible by the Landmine Survivors Network


         Volume 3, #3
        May 26, 2004

MORNING SESSION
Commenced: 10:27 am
Recessed: 12:54 pm

____________________________________________________________________

SUMMARY: The AHC completed consideration of Articles 8 and 9. 
____________________________________________________________________

The Chair opened the morning session by carrying over additional Article 8 
interventions. 

ARTICLE 8: RIGHT TO LIFE (Cont) 

Costa Rica reiterated their proposal with regard to the definition in Article 
8, filed with the Secretariat, and withdrew their observation as to Article 8 
(bis) in order to back Kenya’s proposal as endorsed by other delegations.

Yemen, on behalf of the Arab Group, proposed a new two-part 8(b), with added 
reference to “armed conflicts, occupations, and wars.” These create special 
conditions impacting PWD, and Yemen expressed readiness to look at any ways 
and means to enhance the text. They reminded the delegates that PWD in 
countries in armed conflict, refugee situations, and under occupation deal 
with problems of such severity as to result in suicides. All delegates are 
encouraged to “strive to protect the disabled laboring under such travail” by 
adding a reference to “persons under the yoke of occupation.” 

The floor was opened for comments from NGOs.

National Right to Life (NRL), also speaking on behalf of International Right 
to Life,
supported the Article as written, and as a separate Article. “If we do not 
have the right to life, we have no other rights.”

Save the Children International (SCI), speaking also on behalf of Handicap 
International, agreed that the Article is for everyone, including children. 
It supported the proposal of Argentina, India and others on the concept of 
survival and development, and suggested modifying the Article title to 
harmonize with core principles of right to life, survival, and development 
contained in Article 6 of the Convention on Rights of the Child (CRC), and to 
reflect “not only right to life as such, but the right to survive.” An 
additional paragraph 8.1 is suggested, as follows: “Children and young people 
have right to physical, mental, spiritual, moral and social development to 
the maximum extent possible.” Since the global increase of conflict and 
natural disaster pose an extra risk for PWD, Save the Children also supported 
the Costa Rica, Uganda, Kenya, and NRL positions regarding the need for a 
separate Article on the issue of conflict.

Landmine Survivors Network (LSN) supported the Article because “the right to 
life is a fundamental principle of human rights law from which no derogation 
is permitted.” They agreed with the WG proposal, but commented that serious 
consideration should be given to India’s proposal reflecting the CRC 
approach. Groups at risk would be more appropriately addressed in a separate 
Article addressing the situations of PWD in armed conflict and natural 
disasters, in rural or remote areas, or scattered populations, based on the 
CEDAW precedent.

The Canadian Association of Living (CAL) supported the Article and urged that 
genetics and biotechnology issues also be addressed. As parents, they 
expressed concern that scientific and medical models may pose a “slippery 
slope toward genetic perfection” detrimental to PWD. CAL stated a need for 
the families of people with disabilities to be included in all discussion on 
bioethical issues, and for recognition that “technology must sustain 
diversity and common humanity.” Parents and families should be provided 
education and support to help them resist the societal pressure to abandon or 
hide their children. Delegates were encouraged to “start a new page to 
embrace our sons and daughters, and promote their inclusion and right to 
life.” 

ARTICLE 9: EQUAL RECOGNITION AS A PERSON BEFORE THE LAW 

India proposed deleting from 9(b) of “as others, including in financial 
matters”, and inserting instead “except as provided by law.” In 9(c), the 
clause “endeavor to” should be inserted prior to “ensure”. Under 9(c)(i), “to 
the extent feasible” should be inserted between “assistance is” 
and “proportional.” In 9(d), the words “endeavor to ensure” should again be 
inserted; and the words “as well as to enter into binding agreements or 
contracts, to sign documents, and act as witnesses" should be deleted. It 
would be “imprudent and unfair to leave unprotected a large number of people 
with multiple disabilities in circumstances of abandonment, destitution, or 
extreme poverty and whose families desperately require assistance.” India 
proposed inserting this new paragraph: “The state must protect the interests 
of PWD who cannot exercise their legal capacity in reduced /temporarily 
reduced situations. In exceptional circumstances where legal safeguards are 
necessary, the appointment of third parties as legal guardian/surrogate may 
be made in the best interests of PWD.”

Japan proposed a new subparagraph after 9(f): ”Take appropriate and effective 
measures to eliminate physical and communication barriers and to reduce 
understanding difficulty of PWD in order to exercise all the rights in 
judicial procedure which are provided in the International Covenant on Civil 
and Political Rights.” They reasoned that in interrogations and tribunals, 
PWD -- especially people with mental, hearing and visual disabilities -- are 
often victims of so-called normal procedures. Due to their inability to 
understand what judges and interrogators are saying, PWD should be given 
extra protections to avoid being wrongly judged.
 
Syria suggested adding at the end of 9(e) the words, “bearing in mind the 
quality and degree of disability,” arguing that this would make the Article 
more realistic, applicable, and efficient.

Canada called Article 8 an important Article, and stated that it welcomes the 
opportunity to hear all views. They stated that the current Article has some 
difficulties, as reflected in the footnotes to the WG text, alluded to by 
other delegations including India. The main difference is a lack of consensus 
around what is meant by legal capacity. Canada proposed replacing the current 
WG draft text with the following: 

“1. States Parties shall recognize that, in civil matters, adults with 
disabilities have a legal capacity identical to that of other adults and 
shall accord them equal opportunities to exercise that capacity. In 
particular, they shall recognize that adults with disabilities have equal 
rights to conclude contracts and to administer property and shall treat them 
equally in all stages of procedure in courts and tribunals.

 "2. States Parties shall ensure that where adults with disabilities need 
support to exercise their legal capacity, including assistance to understand 
information and to express their decisions, choices and wishes, the 
assistance is proportional to the degree of support required and tailored to 
the adult’s individual circumstances.

"3. Only a competent, independent and impartial authority, under a standard 
and procedure established by law, can find an adult not to have legal 
capacity. States Parties shall provide by law for a procedure with 
appropriate safeguards for the appointment of a personal representative to 
exercise legal capacity on the adult’s behalf. Such an appointment should be 
guided by principles consistent with this Convention and international human 
rights law, including: 

"(a) ensuring that the appointment is proportional to the adult’s degree of 
legal incapacity and tailored to the adult’s individual circumstances; and, 

"(b) ensuring that personal representatives take into account, to the maximum 
extent possible, the adult’s decisions, choices and wishes.”

This new language would address the lack of clarity regarding the definition 
of “legal capacity” by referring to CEDAW, Article 15.2. There would be no 
need to include 9(a), 9(b), and 9(c) equality provisions since equality would 
be fully covered by Article 7.

The proposed text for 9.2 comes from WG draft 9(c)(i),(ii) with important 
concepts of proportionality and the tailoring of support to the individual 
circumstances of PWD. 9.3 is included to clearly address India and other 
delegates’ concerns regarding what would happen when a PWD is found to have 
diminished or no legal capacity. Language addressing these issues is 
necessary for inclusion in the Article, so that critical safeguards regarding 
appointment of a personal representative or substitute decisionmaker for that 
adult are in place. Canada’s two Article revision imperatives are to 
incorporate proportionality, and adult choices and wishes.

China proposed to make 9(a) more concise by adding the word “equal” 
before “rights” and deleting the phrase “equal to all other persons.” The 
content of 9(b), regarding PWD having the same rights under the law, is 
already reflected in 9(a). Paragraph 9(e) should be deleted. The Convention 
should not be too detailed, but should focus on principles. Since 9(b), 9(c) 
and 9(d) have similar content concerning assistance to disabled, and Article 
13 has specific provisions on providing information to PWD, 9(c) and 9(d) 
should be merged into the following text: “States Parties shall endeavor to 
provide assistance to PWD who experience difficulties in exercising their 
rights.” 

Uganda suggested redrafting 9(a) to read “States Parties shall organize and 
ensure that PWD are individuals with equal right before the law as other 
persons." Under 9(b) “accept” should be replaced by “ensure." In order to 
provide wider areas of equality for PWD, the end of 9(b) should read: “Ensure 
that PWD have full legal capacity on an equal basis as others including in 
political, civil, social, cultural and economic matters.” In 9(c)(i) the 
word “interfere” should be replaced with “undermine.”

Argentina stated that this is a very important Article, and offered comments 
about the risk of rewriting definitions already embodied elsewhere; and also 
about a lack of clarity in describing how to empower PWD who need assistance. 
To simplify matters, Argentina supported the proposal introduced by Canada as 
more general, avoiding listings that may falsely imply exclusion of other 
types of assistance.
 
Thailand supported the retention of WG Article 9, but are willing to support 
any proposed amendment seeking to clarify confusing language. It is not 
necessary to replace the term "persons with disabilities" with the 
word "adults," as the article should address adults who have legal capacity; 
children normally have other legal safeguards.

Ireland stated that the EU shares many of the concerns about this Article 
being too detailed in certain areas and insufficient in others. The EU 
supported the Canadian proposal, except that there is a need at the outset of 
the Article for a strong statement of equality to set the framework for 
subsequent discussion of legal capacity. For that reason, like China and 
others, the EU supported rephrasing 9(a) and 9(b) to read along the lines 
of, “Recognize PWD as individuals with equal rights before the law, and 
guarantee equality before the law without discrimination against PWD” There 
is a difference between recognition of equal rights and guaranteed equality, 
and both should feature in this Article. It is necessary to return to an 
exploration of recognition of legal capacity by persons who need assistance, 
and therefore the EU supported 9(c)(i). The words after “tailored to their 
circumstances" should be deleted because they are unclear. The idea in 9(c)
(ii) is central. Any decision in relation to legal capacity needs to be taken 
by independent and impartial authority, Canada's proposal in this regard 
deserves a close look. Paragraphs 9(d) and 9(e) are too detailed and lack 
clarity. As an odd mixture of ideas in these paragraphs, they should be 
deleted initially, and their concepts should be considered later. The issue 
of property is worthy of special mention, and can be resolved by keeping 9
(f), but the EU remains open to further proposals in that regard.

Kenya proposed working with the WG draft text on this Article. Amendments 
should be made to 9(e), as follows: “Take all appropriate and effective 
measures to ensure the equal rights of PWD to own, inherit, use, or otherwise 
dispose of property.” In Africa PWD often are not allowed to own or use 
property. Kenya supports CEDAW language vis-à-vis property rights.

Qatar stated that this was an important Article, but difficult without a 
definition of disability to go along with relevant subparagraphs. Qatar would 
be ready to look at any relevant proposals along these lines.

Costa Rica agreed with the EU proposal to revamp 9(a) noting this Article 
represents a major step forward in establishing and recognising equality of 
PWD under the law. Costa Rica supported the Canadian proposal, especially 
9.3, which deals with the problem of PWD who don’t have a chance to get 
representation. The reference to financial matters in 9(b) should be deleted. 
9(c)(ii) requires additional language recognising the need for periodic 
review and revision of the decisions in question, relating to individuals 
that assist or may represent PWD. A subparagraph should be added, based on 
language found in other international instruments, as follows: ”Take 
necessary measures to ensure everyone whose rights and freedoms as recognized 
in this Convention are violated should have an effective remedy before a 
national authority, notwithstanding that the violation has been commited in 
an official capacity.” Costa Rica reaffirmed backing for proposals made by 
India, Canada, Ireland, and Japan.

Kuwait stressed the importance of this Article. It also affirmed the need for 
a juridical, legal definition of equal recognition, but adding greater detail 
to the text might spawn controversy and undermine prospects for the 
Convention. Canada’s approach in 9(a) and 9(b) might be a proper beginning of 
the process of amending the Article. 

Mexico expressed concerns about the differences among the legal systems of 
various countries, some based on Roman/Continental law and some on 
Common/Anglo Saxon law. Under these two approaches, either a PWD is 
considered to have full capacity or is prohibited from certain things; there 
is no intermediary position. Mexico stated that its first goal was to 
stipulate safeguards necessary for preventing abuse; its second goal was to 
propose measures so that each country can adopt legislation that fits its own 
circumstances; and its third goal was to leave the door open, so that the 
Convention would not serve as a “straitjacket for more favorable laws.” 
Mexico further suggested that the title of the Article be changed 
to “Equality under the law,” and recommended that the text of 9(a) be changed 
to: “Recognize PWD as subjects of rights and obligations before the law, in 
equal conditions to those of persons without disabilities.”
Mexico considered 9(b) to be redundant since 9(a) is so broad. It considered 9
(c) to be well constructed and general enough to establish the principle 
regarding assistance PWD may require to fully exercise their legal 
capacities. In this regard 9.3 of the Canadian proposal is excessively 
detailed. This only needs to ensure an established process under the law for 
applying necessary legal safeguards. Mexico expressed concern that in some 
countries it may not be the judiciary per se that handles these matters, but 
some other entity, such as in the case of tutelage over minors. Moreover, the 
Canadian proposal introduces a series of difficult subjective elements, such 
as guardians to make decisions for PWD. In Mexico, the delegate explained, a 
judge can decide on these situations on an ad hoc basis, and the status of 
legal incapacity is not irreversible. Mexico suggested that 9(d) be 
maintained as it is, but it stated that although a person may be fully 
legally capable, he or she might need juridical backing to understand certain 
things. Mexico considered 9(e) to be excessively detailed and thought that 
certain elements of it could be worked into 9(d), although Mexico agreed with 
the EU on deleting 9(e) from the text. Mexico also suggested that the end of 
Convention should contain an Article as a safeguard clause, based on those in 
other human rights instruments, stipulating that no provision in this 
Convention shall undermine the provisions of any domestic law more favorable 
to the rights of PWD. Finally, Mexico welcomed Japan’s proposal, but felt 
that it could be covered by a general provision, as it would otherwise need 
to be infused into all the Articles of the Convention. 

Viet Nam suggested adding “if the PWD are in need” after “their own financial 
affairs.”

India expressed its support of the Canadian proposal.

Sierra Leone noted that PWD gave significant contributions to this Article 
and asserted that it is important to review the footnotes for this article 
when considering it. It stated that the Article could end after 9(c)(i), as 
it recognizes PWD as individuals, and agrees with Uganda’s proposals in this 
regard. There must be established legal procedures within the jurisdiction of 
each state to ensure the rights of PWD. It cautioned that the Committee 
should avoid legal commentary in reviewing this Article. The Convention 
cannot include everything; the Committee should work within the WG draft.

New Zealand stated that the Canadian proposal seemed to capture more clearly 
some of the ideas already contained in Article 9, but does not contain ideas 
expressed in 9(e) and 9(f). While further clarity can be brought to the 
Article, the Committee should recall why 9(e) and 9(f) were included in the 
draft in the first place. New Zealand then recalled Articles 13 and 15 of the 
Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women 
(CEDAW), which was an effort to correct the historical presumption that women 
were not capable of owning property or exercising legal capacity; there is a 
similar presumption facing PWD which should be corrected with a similar level 
of detail. New Zealand stated that while specific issues of loans, mortgage, 
and credit could be incorporated into Article 15, it would like to see other 
important concepts retained in the text of this Article. New Zealand then 
pointed out that the Canadian proposal is the only one explicitly stating the 
important safeguard that only a court can deem a PWD to have reduced or no 
legal capacity, though the WG's draft hints at it. India’s proposal mentions 
guardians or surrogates, which leaves out the possibility that a person can 
be appointed to exercise legal capacity for a PWD only for a limited time or 
in a limited function.

Liechtenstein did not agree with the placement of the Article and suggested 
that it would be more appropriately placed after Article 7, and remarked that 
the ordering of Articles seemed to be a problem throughout the draft. It also 
agreed with the Canadian proposal, especially surrounding the issues of equal 
legal capacity in general and the provisions and safeguards for those who 
need assistance. The WG draft did not address personal representatives or 
guardians. The AHC should work with the Canadian proposal, but should not 
forget other ideas that were contained in the WG draft or suggested later, 
such as the right to have and dispose of property.

Serbia and Montenegro suggested working with the EU draft of 9(a) and 
accepted Canada’s proposal from 9(b) on; and suggested adding to 9.3 of 
Canada’s proposal “and with the application of relevant safeguards, including 
provisions for review.” PWD should enjoy equal rights to property without 
discrimination. Serbia and Montenegro agreed with New Zealand that this might 
not be the right placement of the Article, and proposed that the Article 
retain the last subparagraph.

Jordan called this a very important Article that needs serious revision and 
supported the Canadian proposal, especially point 3; and Jordan proposed the 
addition of subparagraph 9(c) to the Canadian text, “ensuring regular review 
of the findings of legal incapacity.”

Botswana supported the suggestions made by Japan, with the addition 
of “social” after “physical” to address negative attitudes toward PWD.

Oman agreed that this is an important Article and affirmed that PWD are equal 
before the law and have full legal capacity on an equal basis with others, 
but questioned how this is exercised. It is crucial that PWD have the ability 
to participate in the legal process; 9(d) deals with the provision of tools 
that enable PWD to participate and to ensure that the legal process itself is 
accessible, and 9(d) must be formed sufficiently broadly to make all legal 
processes exercisable. The Committee should consider degree and quality of 
disability when providing assistance for the exercise, not the limits, of 
rights. 

Yemen questioned the title, asking, “before the law – what law? Of what 
nation?” Yemen asserted that laws differ from one country to the next and 
cautioned that a text must be crafted that is mindful of this. Legal capacity 
of PWD differs depending on the type of disability – e.g., with disabilities 
of movement or vision “we can find a way of dealing with it but certain 
disabilities do not lend themselves to recognition under the law as to legal 
capacity.” Therefore, Yemen supported Qatar, in that there is not a precise 
definition of disability in defining legal capacity.

Ireland, speaking on behalf of the EU, suggested a change to 9(c)(ii), 
deleting “only” and, after the word “taken,” adding the words “by a 
competent, independent and impartial authority”; and appending “including 
provisions for review.” 

Lebanon expressed interest in the Canadian proposal, especially paragraph 3; 
suggested keeping all elements of the WG draft; and agreed with the 
amendments proposed by the EU. 

Norway remarked that the EU proposal, more than the Canadian one, emphasized 
not only equal rights, but also equality before the law. Norway agreed with 
Costa Rica's proposal to include a review mechanism in 9(c)(ii) as a 
safeguard. 

Thailand reiterated its support for the content as put forth by the WG. Any 
attempt to move away from it should only be for the purpose of clarity. Some 
countries may not think 9(d), 9(e), and 9(f) are important, but in some 
developing countries, PWD are at risk of being deprived of these rights. 
However, Thailand would support their placement, in their entirety, in a 
different Article.

Colombia expressed concern that the Canadian proposal focused only on adults 
and addressed only civil matters, not criminal or other areas of law. 
Colombia suggested keeping 9(a) and 9(b), and agreed with Mexico that there 
should be equality vis-à-vis persons without disabilities, by establishing 
affirmative measures to help persons with disabilities. Colombia suggested 
deleting 9(d), as it lacks clarity with regards to managing personal affairs, 
control over moneys, and access to credit. 

Mexico stated that Canada’s proposal might have a restrictive impact by 
limiting the scope of the Article to the civil arena only.

The floor was opened to comments from NGOs.

International Labor Organization suggested the preparation of detailed 
guidelines for implementation, not only for this Article but also for other 
Articles, a procedure which the ILO itself has found effective. The Article 
should provide for an effective dispute, prevention, and settlement system, 
as well as for legal aid.

The Chair noted that this practice already exists under international law.

Landmine Survivors Network stated that the Canadian proposal left out 
essential elements of the text, specifically 9(b) and 9(c)(i) that would be 
necessary to support the achievement of full equal rights by PWD. If 
assistance is provided, the rights and freedoms of legal capacity is not 
interfered with. LSN agreed with Uganda and with the World Network of Users 
and Survivors of Psychiatry, that “undermine” should be replaced 
with “interfere” in order to make it harder to impose guardianship, because 
it is in effect a “social and legal death” and a violation of human rights 
and dignity for a person not to exist before the law. People may need support 
in decisions and some people may need a high level of support, but that does 
not mean a person may be excluded. It is possible to provide assistance 
without taking away or limiting a person’s rights. Autonomy must be 
respected; a support person should facilitate self- determination in the 
decision-making of the person being supported. LSN also discussed 
interdependence and relationships of trust, and the need for procedural 
safeguards to assure that support people act on the wishes of PWD and do not 
abuse their position by imposing their own wishes on the PWD. When capacity 
is assessed, it begins a process of discrimination, especially in cases 
involving people with intellectual or psychiatric disabilities. Even where 
this is not a legal presumption, it is a social presumption and lawmakers and 
judges retain that social presumption. LSN suggested that the Committee 
review their model on supported decision-making and issues of providing 
assistance without limiting rights.

People with Disabilities Australia, the National Association of Community 
Legal Centers, and Australian Federation of Disability Organizations stated 
that there are four key rights underpinning Article 9: 1) the right to 
recognition everywhere as persons before the law, found in Article 16 of the 
ICCPR and in 9(a) of this draft Convention; 2) the right to be presumed to 
have full legal capacity to make decisions in all areas of life, found in 
Article 15 of CEDAW, in the common law of various states and jurisdictions, 
and in 9(c) and 9(d) of this Convention; 3) the right to the full and equal 
enjoyment before and under the law as all other people, recognized in 
Articles 14, 15, and 26 of the ICCPR and 9(a) of this Convention; and the 
right to own and administer property, as recognized in Article 17 of the 
UDHR, Articles 13 and 15 of CEDAW, and 9(d) to 9(f) of this Convention. PDA 
asserted that these rights represent the necessary preconditions to the 
effective exercise of all other rights of PWD and recommended they be 
addressed in separate articles, rather than together in Article 9, which is 
neither clear nor far-reaching enough, and which “conflates and confuses the 
four quite separate rights.” PDA agreed with the wording of 9(d), but 
recommended substantial redrafting of 9(c)(i) to elaborate procedures and 
safeguards necessary to support the full range of assisted and substituted 
decision making from the most informal, culturally appropriate, and least 
restrictive to the more formal options of limited and plenary guardianship. 
PDA supported ILO in that legal aid must be provided for PWD to challenge 
deprivations of their liberty.

Inclusion International supported the position of the World Network of Users 
and Survivors of Psychiatry in that people with psychosocial and intellectual 
disabilities are most vulnerable in attempts to propose substituted decision-
making. While II endorsed the idea of seeking legal means to develop 
supported decision making options before the law, they hoped that the 
Committee would adopt recommendations by Jordan and others that substitute 
decision-making be granted only as a last resort and only on a time limited 
basis. II stated that Japan raised an important issue, touching upon the 
spirit of the Convention, related to people with significant communication 
challenges who need to be assisted in having their needs understood and 
expressed.

Save the Children supported the statements of the World Network of Users and 
Survivors of Psychiatry and Inclusion International. It suggested appending 
to 9(a) the words “and respect the rights of children with disabilities to 
exercise legal capacity in accordance with their evolving capacities” and 
replacing "persons" with “children and adults.” In 9(d) the words “difficulty 
in asserting their rights, in understanding information and in communicating 
have access to assistance to understand information presented to them and to 
express their decision, choices” should be replaced with the 
words “difficulty in communication, accessing and handling information needed 
to address their rights, can acquire non-partial assistance.”

Disabled Peoples’ International stated that the failure to recognize the 
fundamental right to make decisions with support has resulted in 
institutionalization, forced sterilization and countless human rights 
infractions for PWD all over the world. Paragraph 9(c) is a key element, but 
additional wording is needed. DPI directed the Committee’s attention to 
footnote 33, which articulates that where assistance is necessary, the 
underlying assumption is still for full legal capacity; DPI felt that this 
principle was not made explicit in the draft text. Similarly, DPI stated that 
9(c) does not outline procedural safeguards, such as when and how assistance 
should be provided, who will make these determinations, or avenues for review 
and appeal. DPI supported Japan on the need to take effective measures to 
eliminate physical and communication barriers and to ensure the exercise of 
rights in judicial procedures according to the ICCPR. 

World Blind Union stated that these rights should be equal to other persons, 
and should be detailed and specific. WBU considered that 9(d), 9(e), and 9(f) 
were of the highest importance and should remain in the text, as blind 
persons are often denied the right to own property, to marry, to inherit, to 
sign contracts, to hold bank accounts, to sign documents, or even to vote in 
public elections. WBU also pointed out that in footnote 33 the term “disabled 
person” is used, and urged "person first" language in all cases.

The UN Economic and Social Commission for the Asia and the Pacific (ESCAP) 
stated that the draft does not have specific provisions for remedies, and 
suggested adding text from the Bangkok draft, as follows: “States Parties 
recognize that access to effective remedies may require the provision of free 
legal assistance to PWD and the modification or flexible application of 
existing laws and practice regulating matters of procedure and evidence.”

World Federation of the Deaf stated that assistance alone is not enough. 
Often in court or police situations sign language interpreters are ordered to 
leave the room. WFD suggests adding “interpreter services” to both 9(d) of 
the WG draft and to 9.2 of Canada's draft. WFD remarked on the importance of 
a property clause, and on the interconnectedness of legal capacity and 
property.

The Special Rapporteur stated that 9(f) is not sufficient to protect the 
rights of PWD.

Mexico supported the ILO in calling for the development of guidelines or even 
a model law which could direct the preparation of domestic law. 


AFTERNOON SESSION

Commenced:              3:16 PM
Adjourned:      5:50 PM

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The AHC finished discussion of Articles 10 and 11 and began discussions on 
Article 12.
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ARTICLE 10: LIBERTY AND SECURITY OF THE PERSON

China suggested, in 10.2(b), inserting before “reasons” the words “the 
applicable law and” because freedom of parties should be based on fact and 
law. Regarding 10.2(d), it would delete the phrase “or deprivation of liberty 
based on disability, contrary to this Convention” because it is redundant 
with 10.1(b).

Changing the subject back to Article 9, Thailand supported Costa Rica's 
proposed remedies section.

New Zealand referred to the comment in footnote 35 that it is not clear 
whether Article 10 deals with civil commitment, or criminal incarceration, or 
both. It supported the LSN position that this Convention cannot accept a 
lesser standard than the ICCPR, Article 9. New Zealand suggested an amendment 
similar to China's, in 10.2(b), to add after Aformats as to@ the words Atheir 
legal rights and. The words “at the time this occurs" should be added at the 
end of 10.2(b). The EU's proposed new 10.3(i) is problematic because it may 
create an internal contradiction in the document, and 10.3(ii) should be 
rewritten to reflect the autonomy and dignity of PWD.

Argentina stated that there is a translation error in 10.2(a), Spanish 
version: Inherent is the correct word, not imminent.

Ireland, on behalf of the EU, asked that 10.2(d) be changed to: “Compensated 
following determination by an appropriate authority that the deprivation of 
liberty has been unlawful.” There needs to be an impartial authority to rule 
in such cases. The EU’s 3 (bis) was written in response to concerns in 
footnote 36 about whether this Article does or should prohibit civil 
commitments. This concept should be dealt with as a question of deprivation 
of liberty, instead of in Article 11. Ireland concurred with New Zealand that 
this Convention should contain no lesser standard than that which is in the 
ICCPR, Article 9. That however covers criminal detentions so its provisions 
may not apply to health-related detentions at issue in this Convention. 
Forced institutionalization is illegal. It needs to be clear that involuntary 
commitment should only be allowed in exceptional circumstances, and with 
clear legal safeguards. The EU's 10.3(i) (bis) provides stronger safeguards 
than does the ICCPR. A central issue is consideration of the best interests 
of the individual person with a disability. Consent is the issue, therefore 
the AHC should think about adding “involuntary institutionalization” because 
this may be a more appropriate term.

Japan proposed two changes. The words “seek regular review of deprivation of 
their liberty” should be deleted from10.2(c)(ii), because the right to appeal 
to a court is more important than review by States; and the 
second “deprivation of liberty” should be deleted from 10.2(d) to eliminate 
the redundancy.

Costa Rica suggested adding “fully respecting their rights in conditions of 
equality” at the end of 10.2(a).

Canada proposed adding “solely” to 10.1(b), so it would read “shall be based 
solely on disability.” It prefers deleting 10.2(d) and replacing it with a 
new paragraph 10.3 which tracks the ICCPR, Article 9.5: “Any PWD who has been 
the victim of unlawful deprivation of liberty shall have an enforceable right 
to compensation.” It is important to make this Convention consistent with 
other Conventions.

Korea proposed adding in 10.2(a): “the degree of the violation of freedom 
against persons with disabilities should not exceed the general standard and 
proper provision of conveniences such as the measure for ensuring a meeting 
with the guardian, assistive tools and due medical service should be properly 
secured.”

Colombia proposed adding a new paragraph, either at 10.1(c) or at 10.2(e), as 
follows: “States Parties shall guarantee that when persons with disabilities 
are detained or imprisoned that they be placed in a site adapted to their 
particular circumstances of disability respecting their right to participate 
in all activities necessary for them to be reincorporated in social life.” 

Uganda stated that there must be a legitimate reason for deprivation, either 
an offense committed by the person or a potential threat, and not on the 
basis of disability. In 10.1(b), the word “solely” should be added before “on 
the basis of disability.” Uganda proposed a new paragraph at 10.1(c), as 
follows: “when lawfully deprived of liberty measures shall be taken to ensure 
that they receive rehabilitation while under confinement.”

Serbia and Montenegro supported the WG's Article 10 with the amendments 
proposed by the EU.

Mexico supported Argentina's translation correction in 2(a). It supported 
addressing compensation issues more generally in the Convention. In 
10.2, “through a civil or criminal procedure” should be added 
after “liberty.” In 10.1(a), the addition of the word “solely” may cause 
problems by implying that PWD should be deprived of their liberty.

Australia shares New Zealand's uncertainty about whether this Article covers 
criminal or civil cases or both. It also supported New Zealand's amendment to 
10.2(b), adding legal rights, and supported Canada in adding the 
term “solely” to 10.1(b).

Kenya approved of adding 10.1(c), as suggested by Uganda, because disability 
and rehabilitation needs must be taken into account during incarceration.

Jordan suggested that in 10.1(a), the phrase “based on disability” should be 
deleted as redundant. In 10.2(a), “the needs they have because of” should be 
deleted, due to its negative connotations, and replaced with “the challenges 
they encounter due to.”

Norway agreed with the EU regarding the need to be consistent with other 
Conventions. The article may need to deal with civil and criminal cases in 
different parts to make it clearer. 

The floor was opened for NGOs to offer comments.

DPI commented that due to disability many people are subjected to cruel and 
inhuman treatment and abuse, both in and out of institutions. NGOs do not 
support footnote 38 regarding permitting forced institutionalization. 
Institutionalization should be defined with reference to one’s separation 
from nondisabled people and the deprivation of liberty and/or autonomy. 
Boarding schools chosen by deaf, blind and deaf-blind students should not be 
considered institutionalization. No level of institutionalization should be 
necessary.

WNUSP/Support Coalition International supported 10.1(b) as drafted by the WG 
without any qualifications such as the term “solely.” Deprivation of liberty 
based on disability encompasses civil commitment and forced 
institutionalization as well as private deprivation of liberty. If the AHC 
adds the term "solely," it would open the door for States to deprive persons 
with disabilities of their liberty for being “a danger to society,” which is 
discriminatory because people without disabilities are not subject to the 
same standard. If there is no crime, a State cannot lock up person who is not 
considered mentally all or intellectually disabled. PWD should not be subject 
to a different standard. There is a moral obligation to move society toward 
inclusiveness. If a person with a disability is deprived of liberty, that 
imposes a social disadvantage and therefore, under the social model, that is 
discrimination.

Inclusion International recommends changing Articles 10, 11, and 12 so that 
no law could force people to live in institutions. Institutionalization is 
very destructive to PWD and leads to dehumanization of both PWD and staff, 
leading to abuse. Institutions take over the core of a person’s life. 
Contrary to the claim that institutions offer quality care at an affordable 
price, the speaker insisted that they are a costly form of segregation. 
Instead, PWD need integration in school, housing, employment, and recreation.

PWD Australia/NACLC/Australian Federation of Disability supported Article 10. 
A deprivation of liberty must not abrogate other human rights, including the 
right to legal capacity and freedom from torture. It supported an obligation 
to States to reform laws that result in the arrest and detention of PWD 
(footnote 37). The least restrictive alternatives should be used during 
permissible deprivations of liberty, the minimum level appropriate to the 
circumstances. The guarantee in 10.2(b) needs to be more broadly stated so 
that PWD who are detained will know the reason for their deprivation; it 
should include obligations to provide information in alternate formats and 
support people. The right to free legal assistance should be included. The 
word “solely” should not be added because it would create a loophole allowing 
States to deprive a PWD of liberty based on another reason, which by itself 
would not be sufficient to deprive liberty gas. The Article needs to 
explicitly state that deprivation of liberty should be broadly interpreted to 
include civil commitment, mental health and immigration.

DPI Japan supported using the language in ICCPR to avoid misinterpretation. 
The term “needs” in 10.2(a) is too ambiguous and does not state how needs are 
determined nor who determines them. This section needs to include physical 
and information access, general programs and services, and reasonable 
accommodations must be provided in detention facilities. (See Chair’s draft 
Article 14, Bangkok draft Article 13, and Mexican draft Article 10). The 
standard in 10.2(c)(i) is below that in the ICCPR, Article 9.4. DPI Japan 
remarked that 10.2(c)(ii) contradicts 10.1(b). It recommended changing the 
language of the 10.2 chapeau as follows: “States Parties shall ensure that if 
PWD are unlawfully deprived of their liberty or deprived of their liberty 
based on disability contrary to this convention they are:” It supported 
WNUSP's recommendation to keep 10.1(b) as drafted. 

Save the Children expressed concern about this article. The title and the 
grounds for permissible deprivation of liberty are unclear. In many 
countries, the legal reasons for deprivation are questionable, and this 
Article does not address that. The distinction between legal reasons for 
deprivation of liberty and disability-based reasons is also not clear. The 
Article does not provide protection for PWD. A drastic revision is needed to 
ensure that institutionalization and perceived incapacity will be halted. 
Save the Children commented that the drafted article is based on needs and 
perceived needs instead of rights and there is nothing about who defines the 
needs.

Support Coalition International disagreed with the EU that involuntary 
institutionalization is not the norm. Forced institutionalisation is the rule 
not the exception in the U.S. Legal safeguards are set up to protect society, 
not to protect PWD; in contrast, this Convention is about protecting PWD 
rights.

NHRI supported EU 3 (bis) providing legal safeguards against arbitrary 
institutionalisation, an illegal deprivation of liberty. Where a restriction 
of liberty is necessary, procedures in law must be applied and States must 
review their own laws. The focus should be in the best interests of the 
person.

ARTICLE 11: FREEDOM FROM TORTURE OR CRUEL, INHUMAN OR DEGRADING TREATMENT OR 
PUNISHMENT

Ireland said the EU supported 11.1 because it obliges States to implement the 
ICCPR and prohibits medical or scientific experimentation without consent.  
The EU has made proposals in relation to forced institutionalization in 
Article 10, and because forced interventions are dealt with in Article 12, 
the EU recommends deleting from 11.2 the following words: "and shall protect 
persons with disabilities from forced interventions or forced 
institutionalisation aimed at correcting, improving, or alleviating any 
actual or perceived impairment."

India proposed merging Articles 11 and 12. This new Article titled “Freedom 
from Torture, Degrading Treatment, Violence and Abuse” (available on the UN 
Enable website) retains 11.1 and 11.2 with an addition to 11.2. The new 
paragraphs 11.3, 11.4, and 11.5 are similar to Article 12. Both these 
articles deal with acts, which take away the fundamental freedoms, rights, 
and dignity of persons and should be treated together.

Canada supported the EU in deleting the last part of 11.2.

Japan supported the EU and Canada because Article 10 addresses 
institutionalization and Article 12 addresses the rest of 11.2.

Yemen stated that the title of Article 11 and 12 imply that they deal with 
one subject that could be combined, and supported India’s proposal. It does 
not support deleting 11.2, but it may be combined with Article 10.2. 

Uganda supported 11.1 in total, and proposed adding in 11.2 the 
word “abduction” after “forced interventions." PWD are abducted and taken to 
institutions.

Argentina supported 11.1 in the original text. The language in 11.2 goes 
further than the Convention against Torture and therefore may fit in Article 
12, Protection against Violence.

China supported the deletion of the last part of 11.2, as advocated by the EU 
and Canada. Forced interventions, footnote 38, is controversial and suggests 
placement a separate article or in another article. 

South Africa supported 11.1 and removal of last part of 11.2, because it is 
already in Article 12.

Norway supported Canada, China and EU’s proposals to keep 11.1 and to delete 
the last part of 11.2.

Costa Rica supported the current text Article 11, but may agree to delete the 
second part of 11.2. There is a translation issue: The English version 
says “forced intervention" while the Spanish version says “forced medical 
interventions.”

Kenya supported retaining the original Article. Forced interventions and 
institutions are cruel and inhuman treatment, and should be addressed in this 
article. Article 11 and 12 should not be merged because Article 11 tracks 
other Conventions and Article 12 is unique to PWD.

Holy See proposed adding “, including sterilization” after “forced 
interventions” in 11.2. 

Mexico spoke against the proposed merger of Article 11 and 12 because they 
are separate issues. In 11.2, kidnapping (abduction) should not be listed 
because it is a special kind of crime. It proposes a new Paragraph 11.3 to 
address monitoring the living situations of PWD: “In order to monitor living 
conditions and facilities of places where persons with disabilities are 
placed, international instruments shall be applied, as appropriate, including 
the Optional Protocol of the Convention against Torture, for the realization 
of visits by national or international bodies to detention centres.”

Singapore supported deleting the last part of 11.2.

Thailand supported the text as drafted and suggested adding “and other forms 
of experimentation" after "medical or scientific research," in order to be 
more inclusive.

Eritrea supported the WG's original text. Although 11.2 it is redundant with 
article 10, it is necessary to keep it in Article 11.

Sierra Leone supported the WG's original Article 11. The second part of 11.2 
is important; footnote 38 merely states that there was disagreement about 
whether it should appear in Article 11 or Article 12. There was no 
disagreement about its necessity. The AHC needs to address appropriate legal 
procedures and safeguards relating to forced interventions. It would like to 
discuss whether to merge Articles 11 and 12 after the entire Convention is 
drafted.

Algeria does not favor merging Articles 11 and 12 because the seriousness of 
torture is different from abuse. It proposes adding the words “in all of its 
forms” after the word "torture" in 11.1.

Liechtenstein supported keeping Articles 11 and 12 separate. Different actors 
commit these different kinds of abuses. Article 11.1 mainly addresses the 
public sphere, while Article 11.2 deals with medical situations. The focus of 
Article 12 is on abuse and violence in the private sphere, which the State 
should do everything to prevent.

The floor was opened for comments from NGOs.

WNUSP stated that its members experience forced interventions such as 
electric shock and drugging which traumatize them for life. It agreed with 
Kenya that these practices constitute torture. Under international law, there 
is no distinction between torture and forced interventions. Abuse of 
political prisoners is understood and confronted; but in “medical” 
institutions it is more difficult to defend against violence, even though the 
torture is the same, because it is not referred to as such. Legal standards 
and procedural safeguards can never legitimize torture and other cruel 
treatment. WNUSP finds Algeria’s amendment constructive.

Society of Catholic Social Scientists supported the WG draft text with the 
Holy See’s amendment adding forced sterilization, because of the danger posed 
by eugenics interventions. Bodily integrity is a vital concern to PWD.

ARTICLE 12: FREEDOM FROM VIOLENCE AND ABUSE

Ireland explained that the EU does not favor merger of Articles 11 and 12 
because violence and abuse is broader than torture. Although the EU agrees 
with the first sentence in 12.1, it is more appropriate to the preamble. To 
emphasize obligations, Article 12 should begin with States Parties duties to 
protect PWD from all forms of violence. The EU has proposed rewriting 12.2 to 
make it broader and stronger than the WG's language: “States shall take the 
necessary measures to ensure that medical and related interventions, 
including corrective surgery, are not undertaken without the free and 
informed consent of the person concerned.” (Moved and reworded from Article 21
(k)).

In the WG draft, 12.3 repeats 12.1. Therefore 12.3 should be deleted, and the 
rest reworded to focus on information, as follows: “Such measures shall 
include the provision of appropriate information to persons with disabilities 
and their families.”

Although the EU agreed that forced intervention is illegal, there are 
exceptional circumstances where it is appropriate. Therefore, the EU 
suggested an addition 3 (bis): (i ) “States Parties shall accept the 
principle that forced intervention of persons with disabilities is illegal, 
save in exceptional circumstances in accordance with the procedures 
established by law and with the application of appropriate legal safeguards.” 
(ii) “The law shall provide that in any case of forced intervention of 
persons with disabilities, the best interests of the person concerned will be 
fully taken into account.” The EU supported 12.4 and 12.5. In 12.6, the EU 
suggested replacing “treatment” with “prosecution” because this paragraph 
addresses the perpetrators of violence and abuse. In addition, “as 
appropriate” should be moved to before “of protection services” so it 
includes both protection services and judicial involvement.

Argentina proposed deleting the first sentence of 12.1 because it is 
redundant. In 12.2, it proposed deleting “abduction” in favor of a clearer 
term. The terms "forced interventions" and "forced institutionalization" are 
not clear.

Yemen agreed with the WG's draft of 12.5. This Convention needs explicit 
remedies as stated in footnote 39.

Korea proposed to change 12.1 by adding “abandonment" to the list of forms of 
violence and abuse in both sentences. 

Jordan remarked that 12.3 is redundant because it is included in 12.1 and 
should be deleted. It proposed adding “provision of information” to 12.5 and 
adding “and their families” after PWD in 12.6. Forced interventions is an 
abstract concept, but people are concrete. These decisions should be 
supported by counselors, not just judges and lawyers in isolation. 

China remarked that the first sentence in 12.1 of the WG text sentence may 
lead to negative views of PWD. It suggests using Article 19 of CRC as a guide 
and deleting 12.1 as drafted. With regard to 12.2, forced intervention and 
institutionalization are important issues, and the AHC should further discuss 
how to address them.

Bahrain proposed that 12.1 focus on institutional mistreatment.

Costa Rica stated that the Spanish text in 12.1, 12.2, and 12.3 include both 
physical and mental abuse, but the English version does not include that 
distinction. It suggested inclusion of both in all translations. It proposed 
that 12.3 (the provision of information) be placed in 12.1. In 12.6, add 
after “protection services,” “adequate deterrence and effective sanctions, 
including as appropriate, traditional involvement.” This makes clear the need 
to apply sanctions when violence is used as in CEDAW.

Japan stated that 12.2 mixes forced institutionalization with medical 
treatment. If a person consents, then medical treatment is fine. The EU 
proposal would clarify this.

Sierra Leone agreed with deleting the first sentence and placing it in the 
preamble. It also supported deleting 12.2 because this is already in 11.2. 
There is no need to address footnote 39 because 12.5 and 12.6 implicitly 
address remedies. Sierra Leone asked for clarification as to 
whether "judicial involvement" in 12.6 means legal remedies. It prefers to 
incorporate remedies into the Articles instead of describing them in a 
separate Article. Alternatively, 12.5 could be amended to add a provision for 
appropriate legal remedies.

Uganda stated that the first sentence of 12.1 should not be deleted because 
it contains information that States need to understand for the remedies that 
follow. Paragraphs 12.1 and 12.3 need to be harmonized. In 12.4, the 
phrase “placed together, separate from others” may reinforce 
institutionalization and segregation. It proposes replacing this phrase 
with “where PWD’s live and access services.” A new paragraph at the end 
should read: “States Parties reaffirm the rights of persons to make a choice 
over their bodies and shall ensure PWDs are not subject to sterilization or 
forced abortions.”

Kenya recommended a paragraph that takes into account the fact that PWD are 
more likely to suffer rapes and maimings in situations of armed conflict, 
given especially that PWD are seen as less likely to be infected with AIDS. 
It proposed language whereby  States Parties recognize that armed conflict 
particularly undermine freedom from violence and abuse of PWD,  and shall 
take appropriate legislative, administrative and other measures to protect 
PWD from armed conflict. 

New Zealand proposed several amendments.  The first sentence of 12.1 can be 
deleted as had already been proposed provided that it is moved to the 
Preamble. The references to exploitation in this sentence and in 12.3, 12.5 
and 12.6 should include “economic” exploitation as well. The instances 
of “violence and abuse” mentioned n 12.6 should specify the whole list of 
types of abuse as stated in the first sentence of 12.1. In 12.3 “And 
education about how to avoid, recognise and report instance of the above. SP 
shall also ensure those working with PWD that are trained to identify and 
prevent such instances.” 12.4 should be amended to include the need for 
monitoring and transparency: “Recognising that PWD are more at risk of 
violence, injury or abuse, neglect or negligent treatment, maltreatment or 
exploitation, including economic and sexual exploitation and abuse in 
segregated policies and programs where persons with disabilities are placed 
together, separate from other people, NZ States Parties shall ensure that 
those facilities and programmes, both public and private, are effectively 
monitored by independent authorities, which include PWD, and the monitoring 
reports made available to the public.” The following language should be added 
to 12.5: “Such recovery and reintegration shall take place in an environment 
that fosters the health, self-respect, dignity and autonomy of the person.“ 
These amendments are based on the LSN Legal Analysis. 12.6 should focus on 
follow up as treatment has already been dealt with and amended as 
follows: “States Parties shall ensure the identification, reporting and 
investigation of all instances of violence, injury and abuse, neglect or 
negligent treatment, maltreatment or exploitation, and referral to the 
appropriate  protection agency, and where necessary to the courts.”

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